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Old 10-11-2005, 05:44 PM
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As an example from the pros, look how good Brian Billick's offenses have been (not) since he left Minnesota and became a head coach. An OC could be a great move, even if he doesn't call the plays, but just works on the schemes, to take some pressure off of JC who has a bout a billion things to worry about each week as it is. Working in academia, I can say for sure that no one can do everything...and a lot of times people, espcially big-timers, try and do too much. SOme delegation could be helpful for players and coaches alike.
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The best defense is a good offense.
Not neccessarily...look at Texas Tech.

My point is that having a great defense has nothing to do with having a great offense. Two totally different groups of personnel.
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:09 PM
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Not neccessarily...look at Texas Tech.

My point is that having a great defense has nothing to do with having a great offense. Two totally different groups of personnel.
That's an interesting example, Texas Tech is your prototypical wing and a prayer offense. As for their defense, last year was pretty poor. Right now they may have improved their defense over last year - though the toughest part of their schedule has yet to come. Part of what Texas Tech may teach is that it not enough to live by the pass - you also have to eat the clock - and that typically demands a good running game, something that they consistently lack.

As for the Buckeyes, they have always had good defenses in most years. This year, it is simply another great defense. Thank God.

What is frustrating is that both sides of the ball have speed, strength and talent. One is getting the most out of their personnel - -Defense. The other, Offense, is falling short of the Head Coaches goals, their capabilities, and the fans hopes and expectations.
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Not neccessarily...look at Texas Tech.
Texas Tech is 6-0, and is ranked 4 spots higher than Ohio State... i don't know if you caught the Nebraska game this past week, but they needed a score late, and they GOT IT. granted, their D gave up 31, which by Ohio State standards is not acceptable, but they can move the ball when they need to...

anyway, to the real reason for the post, this is from the Presser:
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Our goal isn't to be, I guess, knighted as a prolific. I don't know that we've ever sought that, we just want to do our part to help the team win.
you don't want to be prolific? isn't that the hallmark of an excellent football team? if the term could be applied, we would have a prolific defense, right? i don't even know how to respond... i just can't believe it... this [censored] is [censored]ing ridiculous.
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I completely disagree that the best Defense is a great Offense.

Ask yourself why it's cliche to say Defense wins Championships....

Ask yourself how many Championship teams have been based on outscoring their opponants (By that I mean, 51 - 48 type games, not simple scoring more points, which you obviously have to do to win at all), rather than shutting the opponant down (And I should mention, Just 'cause USC beat the [censored] out of people last year doesn't mean their of the "We gotta score more points" philosophy)

The best Defense is the D that can stop the run, and limit the pass to something approaching negligable. Take OSU, no one can run on them.. least not yet... and that's been true, by and large, since 1995. While OSU has given up some passing numbers, you have to keep in mind, they face a [censored]load of passing plays because no one tries to run (Yes, I know that there have been some big running games against OSU in the last 10 years, but they are few and far between) If you run 70 plays a game, and 20 of them are runs, and you hold the completion % to 40% you're still giving up about 20 Rec. a game which might seem like a lot, but isn't, really... I digress...

Point is, teams like the Colts.... they don't win championships, the Patriots do. Teams like the Chiefs don't make the playoffs, Baltimore does....

Teams like TTU don't win the Big XII, OU does (And they've had the best D in the Big XII up til this year, in my estimation)

The best Defense has NOTHING to do with your offense, nor should it. When you play that way, you're Purdue with it's "Basketball on Grass" You're Northwestern... you're Texas Tech.. You're an also ran.


Edit: If you're talking "ball control" offense, then the theory has some validity. I didn't address than as this thread seems geared towards "big play" offense.
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