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09-20-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ysubuck
Well, the jist of the article states that Troy Smith (and Justin, for that matter) aren't developing like we thought they would even though both were elite 11 QB's. Does this mean that Joe Daniels isn't developing the talent that he has? Bollman's play calling and the offense in general have been under fire for the last 3+ years despite having the talent to be a pretty good offensive team (especially this year).
I wouldn't have expected the staff to be holding back during the Texas game, but that may be the case. Holding back and getting ready for conference play.
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Just because a QB doesn't develop into a world beater you can't blame the coaches. Think about it, it happens in the NFL all the time to, you take a guy at a spot or recruit a guy in college thinking that they have all the tools. But for some reason of another they just dont get it. |
09-20-2005, 11:39 AM
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Ohio State lined up in the shotgun 48 times with Troy Smith in at quarterback. On those plays, we were able to correctly guess whether Ohio State was going to run or pass the ball 44 out of those 48 plays simply by where the halfback was lined up in relation to the quarterback. Ifwe I were able to do this from watching television, there is little doubt opposing coaches are going to notice the same thing. This is something that needs to be addressed and either changed or taken advantage of later by the coaching staff (or at least noticed).
Couldnt agree more. My friend and I were calling it perfectly during the game....way too predictable.
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09-20-2005, 11:43 AM
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a large part of our offense's awakening late last year based on a change in O-line philosophy from primarily zone blocking to a more assignment-based system?
It seems to me that against SDSU, it was all zone, and it was mostly crap. As individuals, our linemen were doing great, but as a unit... there were miscues. Again, please chime in if I'm not seeing/recalling correctly. We've got some big, nasty linemen. Let's turn 'em loose and revel in the destruction. Try it against Iowa... they're breaking in new DL, anyway. If it works, run with it (and I do mean RUN).
Thoughts?
Edit.... just saw this thread on zone blocking. Maybe I'm just on crack. 
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09-20-2005, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by buckeyefool
Just because a QB doesn't develop into a world beater you can't blame the coaches. Think about it, it happens in the NFL all the time to, you take a guy at a spot or recruit a guy in college thinking that they have all the tools. But for some reason of another they just dont get it.
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True, but we have had some really talented QB's come through tOSU. When was the last time one really excelled? Other teams make great QB's from nothing...why can't we take elite 11 QB's to the next level? I can't help but think coaching has a lot to do with it.
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09-20-2005, 05:40 PM
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If I had writing talent and the time to rewatch the game/break down the film. Then had time to write this article. What I would have written would be something similar.
After watching the Tenn-Florida game last Sat. I felt like we had a hillbilly offense. |
09-20-2005, 06:00 PM
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If I had writing talent and the time to rewatch the game/break down the film. Then had time to write this article. What I would have written would be something similar.
After watching the Tenn-Florida game last Sat. I felt like we had a hillbilly offense. |
Pardon me if I'm missing the sarcasm, but didn't Florida settle for three field goals, average 1.8 yards per rush and 5.8 per pass attempt?
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/boxscor...d=200509170067
Both teams netted under 70 yards rushing and under 200 passing. Tennessee's third down efficiency was a San Diego State-like 23%, and completed under 50% of their passes.
Seriously, if you mean that you'd prefer one of those offenses...wow.
On the other hand, both Florida and UT can play some D. That's what's going to keep them in things this year. Truthfully, I was watching that game and wondering about Clausen, Ainge and Leak "what's all the hype about?" I mean, Leak took FIVE sacks.
He did go 17-26, but even then -- that's hardly some Texas Tech-like 50-60 attempts per game.
I'll also credit the two offenses for combining for one turnover (UT fumble). That's about it, though.
Now, the USC game had me jealous of an offense, I'll grant you that. So did Louisville-Oregon State, but UT-Florida??? Come on.
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09-20-2005, 06:14 PM
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I saw some great driving blocking from both teams and they were both aggressively attacking the defense.
Forget about the game and results.
When they lined up on offense they may or may not have executed but the plays seemed better designed to me at least even if they weren't always effective.
I don't know what it was that I liked, maybe it's some of the same plays I call in Madden |
09-20-2005, 07:37 PM
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Like which ones specifically? I don't see anything in this article that's so innovative that any OSU coach wouldn't already know it front to back. It's still early in the season, so I expect Tressel & Co. to be holding back a bit.
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Holding back...for 4 years? |
09-20-2005, 08:17 PM
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I think the defensive talent UF was facing was a tad better than SDSU.
I don't think you can blame all of our offensive struggles on play calling. However, the article's author mentioned that he did not see us running certain plays out of a particular formation in order to set up the defense for something later. There does not seem to be a comprehensive plan to exploit defensive tendencies or adjustments. Our offense seems to throw mud up on the wall and see what sticks.
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09-20-2005, 09:52 PM
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