Polls for week of Nov. 6

[BB73]

Originally Posted by JohnnyCockfight

MSU today is NOT the same MSU that beat Notre Dame. I see what you're saying, that our two losses were to better teams than their two losses, but you have to factor in that MSU was ranked at the relevant time.

Maybe you do, but I don't. My rationale was explained in the first post. I consider each team's entire body of work for this season.

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I'm with Bill. Who cares if MSU was ranked when they played ND, or even OSU (which MSU was)

What matters is, when you do your ballot Bill's way, is a re-evaluation each week of what teams have to show for the season, and how that compares against eachother.

Fact is, OSU beat the same MSU team Purdue did. They weren't any better or any worse one week over the other. It's perception of being better, not actually being better you're talking about JCF.

[AirForceBuck]

Hopefully Northwestern also comes out ranked in the BCS/Harris/Coaches to help our SOS this weekend.

[JohnnyCockfight]

Originally Posted by BB73

Maybe you do, but I don't. My rationale was explained in the first post. I consider each team's entire body of work for this season.

I directly quoted you taking issue with Notre Dame being ranked #7 in the Coaches poll. I understand and respect your method of ranking teams, but do you understand why I don't think you can hold me to the rationale for your personal poll when I am addressing the critique of the Coaches poll?

When the issue is the Coaches poll's ranking, the discussion shifts to what the voters (the coaches) could have been factoring into their decision making process. I don't see how the argument that Notre Dame is a media darling would have anything to do with the D1A coaches' opinions on which teams are the best, so in my mind it must be something else.

I think MSU is obviously demoralized and playing without focus, and truly is a lesser team than they were when they knocked off Notre Dame in South Bend. I don't think it's that far fetched to think that others feel that Notre Dame lost to a quality opponent at the time. What is unfortunate, however, is that Ohio State beat MSU when they were still playing decently, and we didn't lose both of our 2 losses at home (and we didn't have to pull bull[censored] tactics like growing the grass long to gain an advantage over Texas).

[osugrad21]

Miami jumps Bama? Hmmm...


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align="center">17</td> </tr> <tr class="AltTableRow" valign="middle"> <td align="center">16</td> <td align="left">West Virginia</td> <td align="center">7-1</td> <td align="center">677</td> <td align="center">18</td> </tr> <tr class="TableRow" valign="middle"> <td align="center">17</td> <td>Florida State</td> <td align="center">7-2</td> <td align="center">605</td> <td align="center">9</td> </tr> <tr class="AltTableRow" valign="middle"> <td align="center">18</td> <td align="left">Texas Christian</td> <td align="center">9-1</td> <td align="center">536</td> <td align="center">20</td> </tr> <tr class="TableRow" valign="middle"> <td align="center">19</td> <td>Wisconsin</td> <td align="center">8-2</td> <td align="center">438</td> <td align="center">14</td> </tr> <tr class="AltTableRow" valign="middle"> <td align="center">20</td> <td align="left">Fresno State</td> <td align="center">7-1</td> <td align="center">410</td> <td align="center">21</td> </tr> <tr class="TableRow" valign="middle"> <td 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South Carolina 14, Minnesota 12, Iowa St. 5, Iowa 1, South Florida 1.

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