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Polls for week of Nov. 6
Well, the official polls aren't out yet, but they can be put in this thread. I've updated my poll for this week.
Feel free to criticize, but at least understand my criteria. I rank teams based on results for this season only; it doesn't matter what anybody did before this season. The entire body of work for the season is considered equally, I don't care when a team loses. I factor in margin of victory somewhat, but a 24-point win is pretty much the same to me as a 54-point win. Beating true cupcakes means virtually nothing. 01. Texas 02. USC 03. Alabama 04. Miami 05. Penn State 06. LSU 07. Va. Tech 08. Georgia 09. tOSU 10. Oregon 11. Notre Dame 12. Florida 13. Texas Tech 14. Florida State 15. W. Va. 16. Auburn 17. UCLA 18. Wisconsin 19. Fresno St. 20. TCU 21. Ga. Tech 22. Colorado 23. scUM 24. Oklahoma 25. Minnesota |
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I think the real polls will look very similar to that as far as the teams immediately in front of us go.
That why this weekend's SEC games are huge for us LSU vs Alabama Auburn vs UGA We need the SEC runner up to be well behind us in the BCS...we should all be big Bama fans from here on out. |
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LSu will be ranked ahead of Penn State in the human polls, but they shouldn't be.
Penn St. has defeated NW'ern with a late 4th-down conversion, top-10 tOSU, Minny, and top-20 Wiscy. Their loss was a last-second one on the road to a now-ranked scUM team. LSU beat top-15 Florida, top-20 Auburn in OT on a missed FG, and 4-loss Arizona St. on a 4th and long bomb. They lost to a Tennessee team that's now 3-5. Penn State's wins are at least as impressive as LSU's, and their loss is not as bad. These are the adjustments that most voters don't make. Quote:
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![]() Nov. 6, 2005 </td> </tr> <tr valign="center"> <td class="inside-copy" bgcolor="#990000" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" bgcolor="#990000" width="202">Team (first-place votes)</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" bgcolor="#990000" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" bgcolor="#990000" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" bgcolor="#990000" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Southern California (56)</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Texas (6) </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Alabama</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Miami (Fla.)</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">LSU</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Penn State</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Notre Dame</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202"> Virginia Tech </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202"> Georgia </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Ohio State</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Oregon</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Florida</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="20" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202"> Texas Tech </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">UCLA</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="22" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" height="22" width="202"> West Virginia </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="22" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="22" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="22" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Florida State</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202"> Auburn </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">TCU</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Wisconsin</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Fresno State </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Colorado</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Michigan</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Louisville</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" height="21" width="40"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="202">Boston College</td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="74"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="67"> </td> <td class="inside-copy" align="right" width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6" bgcolor="#990000" height="21" valign="center">Dropped out</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6"> No. 21 California (6-3, lost to then-No. 13 Oregon 27-20 OT). </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6" bgcolor="#990000" height="21" valign="center">Others receiving votes</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6"> California (6-3) 55; Texas-El Paso (7-1) 52; Northwestern (6-3) 43; Boise State (7-2) 31; South Carolina (6-3) 18; Minnesota (6-3) 17; Oklahoma (5-3) 8; Clemson (5-4) 1; Iowa State (6-3) 1. </td></tr></tbody> </table> |
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Well, at least they put PSU ahead of ND finally.
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7 through 9 make me sick to my goddamn stomach.
VT has played exactly 1 team in the BCS top 25, got them at home at night and got just absolutely biatch slapped by that team. How in the [censored] do you play 1 team a year, lose to them and stay in the top 10? Are the ignorant ass pollsters that impressed by running up the score on the Dukes and Marylands of the world? Obviously so. Give me the computers any day of the week, they don't have egos or agendas. The pollsters spend all year defending their pre season picks..its just disgraceful. |
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Notre Dame, on the other hand, has only the victory over scUM as a win vs. a ranked opponent. And they lost to MSU, who is unranked. How are they number 7? |
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Here's the AP poll, which is NOT part of the BCS.
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg0 align=left><TD class=bg0 colSpan=5>Associated Press Top 25</TD></TR><TR class=bg1 align=middle><TD>No.</TD><TD>School</TD><TD>Record</TD><TD>Points</TD><TD>Prev</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>1</TD><TD align=left>Southern California</TD><TD align=right>9-0</TD><TD align=right>1617</TD><TD align=right>1</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2</TD><TD align=left>Texas</TD><TD align=right>9-0</TD><TD align=right>1568</TD><TD align=right>2</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>3</TD><TD align=left>Miami (Fla.)</TD><TD align=right>7-1</TD><TD align=right>1452</TD><TD align=right>5</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>4</TD><TD align=left>Alabama</TD><TD align=right>9-0</TD><TD align=right>1450</TD><TD align=right>4</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>5</TD><TD align=left>LSU</TD><TD align=right>7-1</TD><TD align=right>1328</TD><TD align=right>6</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>6</TD><TD align=left>Penn State</TD><TD align=right>9-1</TD><TD align=right>1271</TD><TD align=right>10</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>7</TD><TD align=left>Notre Dame</TD><TD align=right>6-2</TD><TD align=right>1201</TD><TD align=right>8</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>8</TD><TD align=left>Virginia Tech</TD><TD align=right>8-1</TD><TD align=right>1147</TD><TD align=right>3</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>9</TD><TD align=left>Georgia</TD><TD align=right>7-1</TD><TD align=right>1097</TD><TD align=right>11</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>10</TD><TD align=left>Ohio State</TD><TD align=right>7-2</TD><TD align=right>1076</TD><TD align=right>12</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>11</TD><TD align=left>Oregon</TD><TD align=right>8-1</TD><TD align=right>943</TD><TD align=right>15</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>12</TD><TD align=left>Florida</TD><TD align=right>7-2</TD><TD align=right>905</TD><TD align=right>13</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>13</TD><TD align=left>Texas Tech</TD><TD align=right>8-1</TD><TD align=right>753</TD><TD align=right>16</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>14</TD><TD align=left>UCLA</TD><TD align=right>8-1</TD><TD align=right>693</TD><TD align=right>7</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>15</TD><TD align=left>Auburn</TD><TD align=right>7-2</TD><TD align=right>680</TD><TD align=right>17</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>16</TD><TD align=left>West Virginia</TD><TD align=right>7-1</TD><TD align=right>677</TD><TD align=right>18</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>17</TD><TD align=left>Florida State</TD><TD align=right>7-2</TD><TD align=right>605</TD><TD align=right>9</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>18</TD><TD align=left>TCU</TD><TD align=right>9-1</TD><TD align=right>536</TD><TD align=right>20</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>19</TD><TD align=left>Wisconsin</TD><TD align=right>8-2</TD><TD align=right>438</TD><TD align=right>14</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>20</TD><TD align=left>Fresno State</TD><TD align=right>7-1</TD><TD align=right>410</TD><TD align=right>21</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>21</TD><TD align=left>Michigan</TD><TD align=right>6-3</TD><TD align=right>372</TD><TD align=right>22</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>22</TD><TD align=left>Colorado</TD><TD align=right>7-2</TD><TD align=right>312</TD><TD align=right>25</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>23</TD><TD align=left>Louisville</TD><TD align=right>6-2</TD><TD align=right>242</TD><TD align=right>24</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>24</TD><TD align=left>Georgia Tech</TD><TD align=right>6-2</TD><TD align=right>109</TD><TD align=right>_</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>25</TD><TD align=left>Northwestern</TD><TD align=right>6-3</TD><TD align=right>82</TD><TD align=right>_</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left colSpan=6>Others Receiving Votes: California 38, UTEP 27, Boston College 24, Boise St. 23, Oklahoma 16, South Carolina 14, Minnesota 12, Iowa St. 5, Iowa 1, South Florida 1.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> |
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Well, the rankings are starting to sort into groups. Winning out is in our control, but this suggests that it may not be enough unless we get some losses above us.
We are, on average,
If we win out,
What is in our control is what requires our focus. Make no mistake, the computers are our best allies in this battle. We must win the remaining two games as convincingly as possible. The defense has to continue to be rock steady. The offense must also continue to play well. Two more 40+ point performances would be very helpful to moving the human voters and the computers. |
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Sober makes a good point, Georgia IS over ranked
<TABLE cellPadding=1 width=500 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD colSpan=3> </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD colSpan=3> RECORD: 7-1 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ff0000><TD width="17%">9-3-05</TD><TD width="53%">BOISE STATE </TD><TD width="30%">WON 48-13</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ff0000><TD width="17%">9-10-05</TD><TD width="53%">SOUTH CAROLINA </TD><TD width="30%">WON 17-15 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ff0000><TD width="17%">9-17-05</TD><TD width="53%">LOUISIANA-MONROE</TD><TD width="30%">WON 44-7 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="17%">9-24-05</TD><TD width="53%">at Mississippi State</TD><TD width="30%">WON 23-10 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="17%">10-8-05</TD><TD width="53%">at Tennessee </TD><TD width="30%">WON 27-14 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="17%">10-15-05</TD><TD width="53%">at Vanderbilt</TD><TD width="30%">WON 34-17 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ff0000><TD width="17%">10-22-05</TD><TD width="53%">ARKANSAS</TD><TD width="30%">WON 23-20 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD width="17%">10-29-05</TD><TD width="53%">vs. Florida @Jacksonville, FL</TD><TD width="30%">LOST 10-14 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> |
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