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Old 10-23-2007, 05:31 PM
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How do you know that having an offense that doesn't make mistakes, takes care of the ball, manages time, and punishes the opposing defense AREN'T cornerstones to the success of tOSU? Just because tOSU aren't blowing people out of the water week in and week out doesn't mean that there is a lack of attribution to the success. What IF the quarterbacks are doing EXACTLY what Tressel wants them to do? Does this mean that we are weak in that position? No. As a matter of fact, I revert to the old adage: the best offense is a great defense. It's all a matter of keeping the opposing team from scoring. Both our offense and our defense (typically) do equally well in that regard.
The QBs ARE doing exactly what JT wants them to do (sans the obvious mistakes). So we agree on that. And I have already suggested that JTs style of offense does make the defense's job easier at times so you're not breaking any new ground there either. JTs "mistake free" management style is perhaps the reason why tOSU operates an offense which sometimes isn't "high powered", but on average, effective.

I've not suggested that we are "weak" offensively. But you'd need to have your head in the sand to think that defense hasn't, on average, been the strength of our program under JT. There's no need to get upset about it, it's simply the truth and I'm glad we have JT to lead us to the promise land so often, regardless of how we get there. I've beat this up enough and you've contributed little, so I'll leave the curiosity where it is.
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Jim Tressel Points For/Points Against

Year Points For Points Against Record
1986 223 288 2-9
1987 240 231 8-4
1988 190 267 4-7
1989 372 245 9-4
1990 340 146 11-1
1991 413 256 12-3
1992 448 295 11-3-1
1993 448 232 13-2
1994 418 152 14-0-1
1995 188 236 3-8
1996 261 131 8-3
1997 460 230 13-2
1998 250 261 6-5
1999 421 362 12-3
2000 296 189 9-3

4968 3521 194 games

Per game 25.61 18.1

2001 312 244 7-5
2002 410 183 14-0
2003 322 229 11-2
2004 290 219 8-4
2005 392 183 10-2
2006 450 166 12-1

2176 1224 76 games

Per game 28.63 16.10

Tell me something, matcar. When you look at the head coaching career of JT, do you think that averaging over 25 points a game is not a "strong point"?
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The QBs ARE doing exactly what JT wants them to do (sans the obvious mistakes). So we agree on that. And I have already suggested that JTs style of offense does make the defense's job easier at times so you're not breaking any new ground there either. JTs "mistake free" management style is perhaps the reason why tOSU operates an offense which sometimes isn't "high powered", but on average, effective.

I've not suggested that we are "weak" offensively. But you'd need to have your head in the sand to think that defense hasn't, on average, been the strength of our program under JT. There's no need to get upset about it, it's simply the truth and I'm glad we have JT to lead us to the promise land so often, regardless of how we get there. I've beat this up enough and you've contributed little, so I'll leave the curiosity where it is.
I'll leave my post above for you to munch on.

FTR, I don't have my head in the sand. I'm not the one [censored]ing over how the offense isn't a strong point. You're the one who's bucking against the trend of every other poster on this thread. Apparently, you just perceive things differently than the majority of us.
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Tressel > *

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What the hell does that mean? LOL!

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What the hell does that mean? LOL!

Tressel > * means "Tressel is greater than everything"

/thread. means "End of thread" (I think)
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Tressel > * means "Tressel is greater than everything"

/thread. means "End of thread" (I think)
Yep. But I think we should go ahead and leave the thread open.