D1A Coaching Comparison

[Dryden]

Now that the 2005 season is over, and there is a few months downtime until spring practices begin, I'm going to work out a series of coach/program comparisons sorted by different criteria.

The impetus for this is that I am simply curious how JT really stacks up against other top D1A coaches around the country, not just in terms of pure Ws and Ls, but also 'big game' coaching records, talent sent to the NFL, academics, etc.

This data will be introduced as a series of posts, with this, the first installment, being the most straightforward; charting a head coaches' programs' wins and losses over the past five seasons. All of our friends who have found their way over here from Hornfans, Orangebloods, etc. are certain to enjoy this.

More goodies will follow periodically over the next several months.

ACTIVE HEAD COACHES + PROGRAMS OVER FIVE FULL SEASONS (WIN %)

Selection Criteria:
1. The head coach must have held his position with one university for five or more full seasons.
2. The head coach must have a winning record through the previous five seasons.
2. The head coach must have had at least one nine win season in any of the previous five seasons.
3. The head coach must have had at least one bowl win in any of the previous five seasons.
<pre><b>Coach School ALL WIN % 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 BOWL BCS</b><br><br>Mack Brown Texas 56- 8 .875 11- 2 11- 2 10- 3 11- 1 13- 0 4- 1 2- 0<br>Larry Coker Miami (Fla.) 53- 9 .855 12- 0 12- 1 11- 2 9- 3 9- 3 3- 2 2- 1<br>Pete Carroll Southern Cal 54-10 .844 6- 6 11- 2 12- 1 13- 0 12- 1 3- 2 3- 1<br>Bob Stoops Oklahoma 55-11 .833 11- 2 12- 2 12- 2 12- 1 8- 4 3- 2 1- 2<br>Mark Richt Georgia 52-13 .800 8- 4 13- 1 11- 3 10- 2 10- 3 3- 2 1- 1<br>Jim Tressel Ohio State 50-13 .794 7- 5 14- 0 11- 2 8- 4 10- 2 4- 1 3- 0<br>Tommy Tuberville Auburn 46-17 .730 7- 5 9- 4 8- 5 13- 0 9- 3 3- 2 1- 0<br>Kirk Ferentz Iowa 45-17 .726 7- 5 11- 2 10- 3 10- 2 7- 5 3- 2 0- 1<br>Frank Beamer Virginia Tech 47-18 .723 8- 4 10- 4 8- 5 10- 3 11- 2 2- 3 0- 1<br>Gary Patterson TCU 43-17 .717 6- 6 10- 2 11- 2 5- 6 11- 1 2- 2 <br>Tom Amstutz Toledo 45-18 .714 10- 2 9- 5 8- 4 9- 4 9- 3 2- 2 <br>Lloyd Carr Michigan 44-18 .710 8- 4 10- 3 10- 3 9- 3 7- 5 1- 4 0- 2<br>Phillip Fulmer Tennessee 44-19 .698 11- 2 8- 5 10- 3 10- 3 5- 6 2- 2 <br>Tom O'Brien Boston College 43-19 .694 8- 4 9- 4 8- 5 9- 3 9- 3 5- 0 <br>Bobby Bowden Florida State 44-20 .688 8- 4 9- 5 10- 3 9- 3 8- 5 2- 3 0- 3<br>Pat Hill Fresno State 46-21 .687 11- 3 9- 5 9- 5 9- 3 8- 5 3- 2 <br>Joe Novak N. Illinois 40-19 .678 6- 5 8- 4 10- 2 9- 3 7- 5 1- 0 <br>Mike Bellotti Oregon 41-20 .672 11- 1 7- 6 8- 5 5- 6 10- 2 1- 3 1- 0<br>Ralph Friedgen Maryland 41-20 .672 10- 2 11- 3 10- 3 5- 6 5- 6 2- 1 0- 1<br>Mike Leach Texas Tech 41-22 .651 7- 5 9- 5 8- 5 8- 4 9- 3 3- 2 <br>Rich Rodriguez West Virginia 39-22 .634 3- 8 9- 4 8- 5 8- 4 11- 1 1- 3 1- 0<br>June Jones Hawaii 41-24 .631 9- 3 10- 4 9- 5 8- 5 5- 7 2- 1 <br>Chuck Amato NC State 38-24 .613 7- 5 11- 3 8- 5 5- 6 7- 5 3- 1 <br>Tommy Bowden Clemson 37-24 .607 7- 5 7- 6 9- 4 6- 5 8- 4 3- 1 <br>Glen Mason Minnesota 36-25 .590 4- 7 8- 5 10- 3 7- 5 7- 5 3- 1 <br>Jeff Bower S. Mississippi 36-25 .590 6- 5 7- 6 9- 4 7- 5 7- 5 2- 2 <br>Al Groh Virginia 37-26 .587 5- 7 9- 5 8- 5 8- 4 7- 5 3- 1 <br>Houston Nutt Arkansas 34-27 .557 7- 5 9- 5 9- 4 5- 6 4- 7 1- 2 <br>Joe Tiller Purdue 34-27 .557 6- 6 7- 6 9- 4 7- 5 5- 6 1- 3 <br>Sonny Lubick Colorado State 34-28 .548 7- 5 10- 4 7- 6 4- 7 6- 6 1- 3 <br>Dirk Koetter Arizona State 33-28 .541 4- 7 8- 6 5- 7 9- 3 7- 5 2- 1 <br>Tommy West Memphis 32-28 .533 5- 6 3- 9 9- 4 8- 4 7- 5 2- 1 <br>Joe Paterno Penn State 32-27 .524 5- 6 9- 4 3- 9 4- 7 11- 1 1- 1 1- 0<br>Randy Edsall Connecticut 30-28 .517 2- 9 6- 6 9- 3 8- 4 5- 6 1- 0 <br>Darrell Dickey North Texas 31-30 .508 5- 7 8- 5 9- 4 7- 5 2- 9 1- 3 <br></pre>

[ohiostate=life]

Good stuff Dryden.

[Bucky Katt]

Lloyd Carr Michigan 44-18 .710 8-4 10-3 10-3 9-3 7-5 1-4 0-2

WTF? That CANNOT be right! Mike Hart said that scUM NEVER loses three games!!!

[BB73]

The 'no 10-win season' criterion omitted Tom O'Brien of Boston College.

Too bad, since he's 43-19 and 5-0 in bowls, he has a better record than almost half the guys on the list.

Great topic, Dry, I'm looking forward to the other posts in your series.

[Dryden]

Originally Posted by BB73

The 'no 10-win season' criterion omitted Tom O'Brien of Boston College.

Too bad, since he's 43-19 and 5-0 in bowls, he has a better record than almost half the guys on the list.

Correct. Unfortunately, I had to draw the line somewhere. The 10-win season plateau also omits Mike Leach of Texas Tech and Joe Tiller of Purdue, among others.

The 5+ years at one program prerequisite also results in the omission of current fashionable hires like Urban Meyer and Les Miles. Barry Alverez is forgotten since he isn't the coach of Wisconsin any longer. Eh, there's a lot of ways to do this.

[Dryden]

ACTIVE HEAD COACHES + PROGRAMS OVER FIVE FULL SEASONS (NFL DRAFT PICKS)

Selection Criteria:
(see above)
<pre><b>Coach School TOTAL 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006</b><br><br>Larry Coker Miami (Fla.) 42(17) 11( 5) 8( 4) 9( 6) 5( 1) 9( 1)<br>Jim Tressel Ohio State 39( 8) 8 5 14( 3) 3 9( 5)<br>Mark Richt Georgia 32( 6) 8( 1) 7( 2) 4( 1) 6( 2) 7<br>Bobby Bowden Florida State 30( 7) 2( 1) 6 5 9( 2) 8( 4)<br>Phillip Fulmer Tennessee 30( 4) 10( 3) 8 4 3 5( 1)<br>Pete Carroll Southern Cal 27( 7) 2 5( 2) 4( 1) 5( 2) 11( 2)<br>Frank Beamer Virginia Tech 27( 2) 8 2 5( 2) 3 9<br>Bob Stoops Oklahoma 26( 6) 2( 1) 4( 1) 3( 1) 11( 2) 6( 1)<br>Kirk Ferentz Iowa 20( 3) 3 5( 1) 5( 1) 5 2( 1)<br>Lloyd Carr Michigan 20( 3) 4 6 4( 1) 3( 2) 3<br>Mack Brown Texas 19( 8) 2( 2) 4 4( 2) 3( 2) 6( 2)<br>Mike Bellotti Oregon 19( 2) 6( 1) 3 4 2 4( 1)<br>Joe Paterno Penn State 18( 5) 2 6( 4) 4 6( 1)<br>Al Groh Virginia 18( 2) 3 2 1 7( 1) 5( 1)<br>Joe Tiller Purdue 17 2 1 9 1 4<br>Tommy Tuberville Auburn 16( 5) 3( 1) 4 5( 4) 4<br>Chuck Amato NC State 16( 4) 2 2 3( 1) 3 6( 3)<br>Ralph Friedgen Maryland 14( 2) 3 1 5 2( 1) 3( 1)<br>Dirk Koetter Arizona State 14( 2) 4( 1) 3( 1) 2 3 2<br>Houston Nutt Arkansas 11( 3) 1 1 6( 2) 2( 1) 1<br>Pat Hill Fresno State 11( 2) 4( 1) 1 1 2( 1) 3<br>Tom O'Brien Boston College 10( 2) 2( 1) 3 2 3( 1)<br>Glen Mason Minnesota 10( 1) 3 1 1 1 4( 1)<br>Tommy Bowden Clemson 10( 1) 2 2 3 3( 1)<br>Mike Leach Texas Tech 9 1 2 2 3 1<br>Gary Patterson TCU 8 1 2 1 1 3<br>Jeff Bower S. Mississippi 8 2 1 3 2<br>Rich Rodriguez West Virginia 7( 1) 2 1 3( 1) 1<br>June Jones Hawaii 7( 1) 1( 1) 3 2 1<br>Tommy West Memphis 5( 1) 2 1 2( 1)<br>Sonny Lubick Colorado State 5 3 1 1<br>Tom Amstutz Toledo 4 1 1 1 1<br>Joe Novak N. Illinois 2 1 1<br>Randy Edsall Connecticut 2 2<br>Darrell Dickey North Texas 1 1<br></pre>* This table lists the number of total draft picks (1st round selections in parenthesis) produced under the tenure of the same 35 coaches listed previously.

This is, of course, a work in progress pending the upcoming 2006 NFL Draft.

Some way too early observations:

1. How does Larry Coker fire a staff that has helped produce 16 first round draft picks in five years?

2. Where does this place Mack Brown? He has (unfairly) taken lumps the last four years after losses to Oklahoma, but now stands with a MNC, two straight Rose Bowl victories, and the best winning percentage of the lot. He's done all this despite placing in the middle of the pack with NFL talent production and recruiting classes that aren't ranked nearly as high as many of his peers, despite the mythic proportions that the "recruiting national champion" jokes have taken recently.

3. If you translate the NFL potential that NFL Scouts see at the combine into collegiate wins for the program, then Phillip Fulmer, Bobby Bowden, and Lloyd Carr have done less with more than any other coaches in D1A. Of course, you didn't need to see this chart to know that, did you?

4. Between the 2003 - 2005 NFL drafts, Miami and Ohio State each had exactly 22 players drafted. It is pretty close to being the starting 44 from the 2003 Fiesta Bowl. However, going back to the doing less with more suggestion, it's probably worth noting that Miami's roster included 11 1st round draft picks to OSU's 3.