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Old 01-25-2006, 07:04 PM
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Amazing stat about last year's defense...

I found this on CHN.com...kind of hard to believe...

The number one thing to work on is: Forcing turnovers. Considering all the NFL talent on the Ohio State defense last year, and considering the D finished number one in the nation in run defense, it’s amazing that it only took it away 12 times. That’s as many as Buffalo, and only Rice (11) and Illinois (8) forced fewer.
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Probably at least in some part due to simplified game plans against the defense. Look at the Penn State game, for instance. They didn't turn the ball over (which is why they won), but they basically sat on the ball for most of 3 quarters too. I agree, it would have been better to get more TOs, but fumbles depend on the bounce, and our defense forced a whole mess of 3-and-outs, which are almost as good.
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It's been pretty well documented that we couldn't force turnovers. I did not realize we were at the absolute bottom, but I remember the announcers harping on our spot at the bottom of the big ten in this category.

This has been brought up often when discussing the green defense next year. They will not be able to shut people down like the 05 D, at least not at first, but if they can force turnovers their performance may be much better than expected.

lion, I would have to disagree with you. We just didn't force turnovers, which was astounding considering our coverage (should have had more INTs; especially from our LBs) and our size (Kudla, Carp, Hawk, Schlegel, Salley, Whitner should have resulted in more fumbles). Also, turnovers often lead to easy FGs.
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I'm not ripping at Tibor, he's just the messenger here. But, I guess my point is, what's the point here?

You can probably just take it for what it is, that a meaningful stat like takeaways is usually indicative of the quality of a defense 99.999% of the time. This .001 it was not. People that want to argue can say that our defense underachieved with these numbers. The flipside would be that maybe this was our greatest defense ever considering that it had only 12 takeaways.
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I saw that stat also, but it's not something I'd start a thread on.
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I wonder how much of it was due to lack of opportunity?

We got an awful lot of three and outs. We also put the offense in a lot of third and really longs, which against our defense, they tended to play more conservatively. So I would argue that the mid range plays, which are probably the ones that you try things that are the riskiest, are the ones we prevented.
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