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Old 10-12-2003, 05:42 AM
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Bucknuts just needs to be shut down for a couple of days until all the sissy pansy whiner babies settle down...

I love Krenzel to death, but I think mcMullen should be given some more time. He was pretty impressive passing-wise subbing for Krenzel.

Damn, something has got to be done about the OL and the playcalling.
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Damn, something has got to be done about the OL and the playcalling.
I guess I somewhat buy into the whole 'we can only run certain plays with our line' talk from last year. This line is terrible. You can't run screen plays. The only guy who can really move is Mangold but even when he gets outside to block he doesn't really punish anyone. They are slow and it takes way too long for plays to develop. In Krenzel's defense it's pretty difficult to do a whole lot when you the other team's defensive tackles are causing pressure right up the middle. When he had time to deliver the ball he was ok. He was rusty and he did miss a few passes but that's not surprising considering the weather and the lack of a running game. And don't you need a successful running game in order for play action to work? You have weapons like Jenkins, Carter, Hall, Holmes, and Childress and you struggle to score 10 points? It's just unacceptable, especially with our defense.
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Old 10-12-2003, 06:35 PM
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Few quick thoughts

I'm staying off the BN board for a day or two. I figure they can have their meltdown without my help. However it's not as bad as I thought it would be over there.

After that choke by Reynolds I was kind of happy to see OSU lose. Only because had OSU won and then ran the table, the footage of that choke would have followed us the entire season. It probably will anyways, but it would have been worse.

Somebody had mentioned the thought of Mike Price as offensive coordinater. I know it won't happen, but personally, I think it would be a nice fit for both OSU and Price. If he came in and turned the O around at OSU it would go a long way towards restoring his reputation. And as far as OSU is concerned, well I'd rather have brett running our offence right now. I thought the players, even MoHall, showed enough skill to put up major points. I just don't see them being utilized effectively.
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Old 10-12-2003, 08:00 PM
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I've been watching the Buckeyes for 40 years and I've seen the Buckeyes play worse games than this. I'll be watching again next week and rooting for the Buckeyes to trounce Iowa.
I hope the players and the coaches learn from this and step-up to the plate.
People better get used to Tressel's philosophy because he ain't going to change it; not after he's won 5 championships with this philosphy. He's missing a running game and it isn't going to get better until the Buckeyes find better backs and a O-line that can block. I think the O-linemen can do the job with the exception of Bishop and, unfortunatley, Stephanovic isn't healthy. Bishop is the weak link in this O-line IMO.
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Old 10-13-2003, 01:18 AM
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Old 10-13-2003, 01:46 AM
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Random thoughts...

- the interior OL got abused on passing plays. Before tonight, the OL was much worse in run blocking. I've never seen Mangold look so foolish on a couple of plays. Give credit to Hawthorne. Much like OSU's DL against Miami, he was unblockable that night.

- the OL is not a pitiful unit, but they are hardly even average. Our backs have no vision. You could put an NFL OL in, and Hall would still tiptoe to the line before missing the hole, and Lydell would still leave after his 5th carry with some sort of injury.

- The play action fakes have to go. Krenzel never did a good job of faking the handoff to being with, let alone on 3rd and long. This is probably what SDSU meant when they said OSU's plays were slow developing. They are.

- Drew Carter's hands continue to impress more and more every game. That combined with his measurables will make NFL scouts drool. He is not the same player that dropped 3-4 passes in the Spring Game.

- You have to wonder if Coach Tressel would ever yank Krenzel in favor of SM for a series or two. I don't think he ever would. Krenzel just wasn't getting it done last night... seemed tentative, afraid of making a mistake, absolutely no zip on any of his 15-20 yard passes.

- When Hartsock and Hamby were getting balls thrown their way, I thought the offense would be fine. PSU's backup TE abused Wisconsin all game long. I thought Hartsock and Hamby would have a lot of success. We just never went back to them in the second half.

- BJ Sander has impressed me more than anybody else this year. His shanks are limited to about one every 2-3 games and has almost never even come close to getting it blocked. Steve Moore and Tyler Everett made a great play to down the ball at the goalline.

- I really wonder if Bollman has to go. We already know he's not actualy calling offensive plays. His only real duty is OL coach, and that unit has seemed to regress every year. I wonder what he looks for in OL recruits, because it seems like he has more input on OL recruiting than any other assistant coach has on their area.

- Reynolds has to be suspended for a minimum of 3-4 games. While a lot of bad things happen at the bottom of the pile, he seemed to lose control of himself for a couple seconds. No place for that on this team, and I hope Coach Tressel makes it known.

- I knew we had to lose sometime this season. It's better now than later. We're projected to be 6 or 7 in the first BCS poll. Still a lot of time to make up ground. Interesting scenario: If OSU were to squeak into the BCS champ. game as the #2, and Wisconsin also wins out, OSU would prabably be ranked higher while having lost to them. Another quirk of the BCS I guess.
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Did Gamble really get beat?

Maybe somebody with replay capabilites can help me out here...

When I saw the replay of the long TD, to me it looked like OSU was playing standard cover 2. It seemed as if Gamble was supposed to have the short zone, with Allen playing deep. Was Allen lined up on a receiver when the play started?

I can't believe Gamble would bite that hard on a simple fake unless he was supposed to have a safety helping him in deep coverage.
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