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Old 03-16-2006, 04:15 PM
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Michigan's sports programs inferior to Ohio State's
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Now that Ohio State has surpassed Michigan in nearly every major sport, what is Bill Martin going to do to change it?

Lloyd Carr, the worst game coach in the Big Ten, has single-handedly driven the Michigan football program into the ground in recent years. I do not even want to hear about how much of a classy guy he is. He is a great person but a terrible football coach. When are we going to stop losing on the quarterback draw, eh coach? It goes without mentioning that OSU has dominated us in football.

Tommy Amaker, despite all of the injuries to the basketball team, did a horrific job of getting his team ready to play for last nine games of the season. Good finish, coach! OSU has us dominated in this regard, and the future looks grim for Michigan with OSU's incredible recruiting class next year.

The hockey team is having a rough year, and split with a terrible OSU team. Michigan has looked outmatched by nearly each member of the WCHA and east coast opponents it has faced in the NCAA tournament in recent years. As a four-year season ticket holder, I saw first-hand losses to Boston College, Minnesota (many times) and Colorado College (huge collapse). We were clearly outclassed in these games.

OSU's baseball program is in much better standing than Michigan's. Let's not even talk about our women's basketball team, but OSU's is one of the best in the nation.

People can tell me that I am just whining, but I know that I am not alone in getting fed up with Michigan's continuing mediocrity in every sport. Ohio State has it figured out, and as a lifelong Michigan fan, it is sickening to see us on the losing end in most everything.


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http://www.michigandaily.com/media/paper851/news/2006/03/14/Opinion/Letters.To.T he.Editor-1685863.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.michigand aily.com
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Hows many times have you heard a scUM fan say they don't judge their success with how we are doing in comparison? Guess thats not so true.
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Hows many times have you heard a scUM fan say they don't judge their success with how we are doing in comparison? Guess thats not so true.
They mostly said that as an insult to us when they thought they were ahead...you know, the whole "It's not a rivalry if one side wins all the time" attitude. Obviously that isn't the case now.
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Hows many times have you heard a scUM fan say they don't judge their success with how we are doing in comparison? Guess thats not so true.
That's not true...I hear "57-39-6" from all the time. In fact, that's all I hear from them.
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That's not true...I hear "57-39-6" from all the time. In fact, that's all I hear from them.
Do you expect them to brag about how many times they've finished #1 in the history of the Coaches football poll?

The answer is zero, for those who didn't know.
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That's not true...I hear "57-39-6" from all the time. In fact, that's all I hear from them.
Living in the past is always best when you are doing nothing in the present. I remember the days of 2-10-1 too. You never hear that one anymore. (Thank God). scUM was a pretty good team already when tOSU was in it's infancy. That is where most of those wins came from. Pretty even from the 50s on, I believe, without looking anything up.
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Pretty even from the 50s on, I believe, without looking anything up.
About as even as you can get. From 1950 it's 27-27-2, with us holding a slight edge in scoring (16.62 to 16.14 ).
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OR... you could say that at our current rate (4 wins in 5 years) it would take 22.5 years to even the all-time record.... 2028 can't get here soon enough!!
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I do not even want to hear about how much of a classy guy he is. He is a great person but a terrible football coach.
What a douche. Lllloyd Carr is a lot of things -- classy ain't one of them.

We should probably write a letter to note the Mr. Adams' analysis shows a fair bit of bias, since he only mentioned the major sports such as football, basketball, baseball, and hockey, when Ohio State has owned Michigan recently in soccer, volleyball, fencing, swimming/diving, gymnastics, and golf too.

He can be proud of his women's softball team, though. At least one of UM's 25-some varsity sports progams doesn't blow.
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OR... you could say that at our current rate (4 wins in 5 years) it would take 22.5 years to even the all-time record.... 2028 can't get here soon enough!!
I got 2035.

Gaining 3 every 5 years (4-1 gains 3, not 4), it takes 30 years to gain 18, right.
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I got 2035.

Gaining 3 every 5 years (4-1 gains 3, not 4), it takes 30 years to gain 18, right.
Whatever the math, all I know for sure is that it will be a LOT closer when JT retires than when he took over!
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That's not true...I hear "57-39-6" from all the time. In fact, that's all I hear from them.
I thought we had 40 wins. Guess not.
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