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03-22-2006, 03:26 PM
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are there any big time college programs that run a 3-4?
with our possible lack of super DTs... and abundance of outstanding LBs...
but is a 3-4 too sophisticated for college...
if we land a couple of these DT studs for next year, we could go back to a traditional 4-3 in 2007 but a 3-4 sounds made to order for 2006
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03-22-2006, 03:30 PM
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That's what they said about 2005 with all the LBs we had and it certainly didn't happen. Granted, D'Andrea and Freeman were both hurt, but it didn't look like they were even planning on trying the 3-4 (fulltime) before the injuries.
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03-22-2006, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-Buckeye
are there any big time college programs that run a 3-4?
with our possible lack of super DTs... and abundance of outstanding LBs...
but is a 3-4 too sophisticated for college...
if we land a couple of these DT studs for next year, we could go back to a traditional 4-3 in 2007 but a 3-4 sounds made to order for 2006
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Michigan has ran it the past couple of years.
Just b/c you have the numbers doesnt mean you can run it. They have to be a certain type of player, and your ends have to be big run stuffers not pass rushers like we have.
We do run some 3 down lineman formations, but that is when they bring in the nickel and dime packages.
We will also rush 3 and drop one end into coverage so it kinda looks like a 3-4, but we will always be base 4-3.
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03-22-2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40
your ends have to be big run stuffers not pass rushers like we have.
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Not always...the focus is the NG who has to force a double team every snap. The ends need to be mobile to play multiple gaps.
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03-22-2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40
Michigan has ran it the past couple of years.
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I'll bet NJ knows that. He asked if any 'big-time' programs ran the 3-4. 
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03-22-2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bucknut11
That's what they said about 2005 with all the LBs we had and it certainly didn't happen. Granted, D'Andrea and Freeman were both hurt, but it didn't look like they were even planning on trying the 3-4 (fulltime) before the injuries.
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Yeah.. but I'm sayin it now.. so that'll make the difference  .. If Freeman would have stayed healthy, I suspect we would have seen it in 2005
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Originally Posted by osugrad21
Not always...the focus is the NG who has to force a double team every snap. The ends need to be mobile to play multiple gaps.
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Yeah but I don't think we have those guys on our team, besides maybe patterson, but guys like JRich, Wilson, Gholston would get exposed.
They are pass rushing guys and the pass rushing is designated to the outside backers in the 3-4.
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