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I disagree. Orlando Pace finished fourth in the Heisman voting as a Junior in 1996, receiving 87 1st-place votes and appearing as a Top 3 pick on over a third of all the ballots submitted that year. He won the Outland Trophy, and is the only player to win the Lombardi twice. He was so dominant, a new stat (the pancake) was invented because of him. He blocked for Eddie George and Pepe Pearson in some of the greatest games in OSU history: '95 against Notre Dame - George rushed for 207, '95 against Illinois - George rushed for 314, '96 against Notre Dame - Pearson rushed for 173.

Pace was the #1 overall pick in the '97 draft, as a junior! ... went to seven consecutive Pro Bowls, has a Super Bowl ring ...

It isn't difficult to quantify at all. Pace was one of maybe four or five of the most dominant college players at any position in history. It's foolish to even attempt to compare 17 and 18 year old high school players to Pace.
And... to think, I was worried when Korey Stringer left... for about a nanosecond...

Speaking of Korey Stringer, if any of these guys are as good as him... we'll be doing just fine...

Ironically, Dryden, I think CB40 is right... its pretty hard to quantify... (though you left out Big Ten Offensive player of the year in '96 ) the guy was just unbelievable.
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Ironically, Dryden, I think CB40 is right... its pretty hard to quantify... (though you left out Big Ten Offensive player of the year in '96 ) the guy was just unbelievable.
Well, for brevity - and the fact that this is Adams's thread, not Pace's - I left off a lot of stuff, such as the fact that Pace didn't surrender a sack to his man in '95 or '96.

There was a Monday night game two years ago where the Rams played the Colts. Coming into that game, Dwight Freeney was riding a high -- leading the NFL in sacks. What was his line after matching up against Orlando Pace? One tackle and a forced fumble. That's it! One lousy tackle!

I just find it hard to believe, as with Alex Boone before, that anyone can go to a high school game, or watch a few games worth of high school film, and compare a kid dominating his high school division to one of the most dominant OTs to go through college and the NFL, for the last 14 years running (barring his triceps injuries).

Compare Adams to Stringer, or Joe Thomas, or Jake Long, or anybody else that is really, really good. But Pace is on another level, and any comparison to him is way premature.
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Not sure how to post YouTube right in the post, but here is a quick video on Orlando Pace with some commentary from some former Buckeyes.

YouTube - Orlando Pace Ohio State Highlights

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I recommend EVERYONE get that DVD - Buckeyes' Top 50.
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If you watch those videos of Mike you do see a lot of Orlando Pace "qualities" in him. He hardly ever just blocks one guy. He slides to another defender almost every running play. The guys he's blocking dont get near the quarter back, ever. The thing I see in Mike right now that is not Pace like is the finish on some plays. He makes a big hit on the guy he's blocking but doesnt always drive him with his legs. That will definitely change at the next level. Mikes pass blocking is way beyond anyone else we have coming in or any other high school player I've watched video on anyway.

To be like Orlando Pace he'll have to work his tail off for sure. Anyone want to bet that Mike wears that #75 for a reason though.
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Watch this film and then convince me this kid is not a Top 100 player in the nation...somehow Rivals came to that conclusion.
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I saw the kid once this year live...I figured I would have to peel my eyes off Stoney for a few plays to focus on Adams.

Needless to say, by the end of the game, I was having to peel my eyes off Adams b/c he was kicking the crap out of Westerville Central's D-line.

I haven't seen the other "top 100" up close and personal...but I do know that Mike Adams could easily see the field as a true freshman next year - his body is college ready - he is built similar to Boone (now - not Boone as a frosh). Adams is all muscle...
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Watch this film and then convince me this kid is not a Top 100 player in the nation...somehow Rivals came to that conclusion.
Heck watch that film and tell me you don't have a top 15 player in the country...

Boys his size, move that well, and have he desire like does don't come around very often...

#1 tackle in the country...
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Screw the rankings, Adams will start as a freshmen.
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Screw the rankings, Adams will start as a freshmen.
Play...Yes
Start...Depends on if Boone leaves early...IMO...Skinner and Rehring could both man the tackle spot as well...

Also Shugarts will have some say as well...
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Aren't Shugarts and Brewster coming in early?
They would get a jump on Adams.
And Skinner can't seem to stay healthy.............
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Aren't Shugarts and Brewster coming in early?
They would get a jump on Adams.
And Skinner can't seem to stay healthy.............

adams is coming in early as well.
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Aren't Shugarts and Brewster coming in early?
They would get a jump on Adams.
And Skinner can't seem to stay healthy.............
Like tsteele said Adams is also coming in early...

As for Skinner lets just hope for the best, b/c I truly believe he is one of our best returning lineman next year...

If he doesn's play tackle I believe he plays guard...
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Rivals have lost their minds. Top ol in Ohio and top 10 in the nation. Who cares, JT and staff have him for atleast 3 years and a couple rings.
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