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Old 09-21-2007, 11:36 AM
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Weight has nothing to do with getting a concussion.
The point I was trying to make was that he is light for playing at this level and he does need to put on weight. Those 300 lb's hit hard and heavy.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:52 AM
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Dane is about 180#. Ray is the same weight. Hartline is the same weight just taller (although he really bounces around out there). Dane may be taking a lesson from Hartline and in doing so, he got dinged up. These guys throw themselves around, block for others, get hit catching passes and sometimes need to deal with a linebacker that may have a good fifty pounds on them. He could use a few pounds but IMO the weight gain might slow him down. However, strength training would benefit them. WRs are like gazelles, they run fast and are elusive, but they are fragile. It goes with the territory.

TG II is a good example. One celebration in the endzone, a foot gets steps on voila. He's out of commission.
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That sucks for Dane! Wish him a speedy recovery.

From a medical sense, I disagree that weight has nothing to do with a concussion.

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Concussion, or mild traumatic brain injury (MTBI), is the most common and least serious type of traumatic brain injury. A milder type of diffuse axonal injury, concussion involves a transient loss of mental function. It can be caused by acceleration or deceleration forces, or by a direct blow. Concussion is generally not associated with penetrating injuries.
It is the transfer of a conserved quantity called momentum. Higher velocity and higher weight translates to higher momentum which in turn results in greater acceleration/deceleration forces.
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:32 PM
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That sucks for Dane! Wish him a speedy recovery.

From a medical sense, I disagree that weight has nothing to do with a concussion.

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It is the transfer of a conserved quantity called momentum. Higher velocity and higher weight translates to higher momentum which in turn results in greater acceleration/deceleration forces.
If that were true, wouldn't Dane being bigger cause him to have more momentum and be MORE likely to be concussed?
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If that were true, wouldn't Dane being bigger cause him to have more momentum and be MORE likely to be concussed?
No, because then when he hits something with his mass being bigger he would suffer less decelleration...
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The point I was trying to make was that he is light for playing at this level and he does need to put on weight. Those 300 lb's hit hard and heavy.
Yep. Those WR's get tackled by DT's all game long.
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No, because then when he hits something with his mass being bigger he would suffer less decelleration...
Good point. But it seems like the reduced decelleration is offset by the increased momentum. I'm sure I'm just not getting it and I certainly understand why being bigger would cause you to impact the other player more, but fundamentally getting bigger simply adds to the impact if everything else remains a constant. Yes, you are delivering a bigger blow, but you and the foreign object are still receiving the force of the impact.
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