TE/WR Jake Stoneburner (official thread)

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40

Isnt that what a "flex TE" would do in the spread formation...

Motion out of a TE spot out wide in a 2 WR set or stay on the line...

The main thing he will do is cause mismatches...Find ways to get him matched up on smaller corners in the redzone or stretch the middle of the field against slower lb's and safties...

Well if you have already conceded that Stoneburner's biggest assets are his size and the potential matchups that he would create as a receiver, why not just call him a receiver instead of insisting that he's a TE?

There are ways to use a WR to stretch the middle of the defense, even small WRs such as Gonzo.

I guess what I'm saying is that the kid is coming to here to catch football, whether you would like to call him a flex TE or a SE or whatever. We got glorified tackles disguised as TEs for blocking purposes.

[GatorsAreGood]

TE or WR, he will be a great player.

[crazybuckfan40]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

Well if you have already conceded that Stoneburner's biggest assets are his size and the potential matchups that he would create as a receiver, why not just call him a receiver instead of insisting that he's a TE?

There are ways to use a WR to stretch the middle of the defense, even small WRs such as Gonzo.

I guess what I'm saying is that the kid is coming to here to catch football, whether you would like to call him a flex TE or a SE or whatever. We got glorified tackles disguised as TEs for blocking purposes.

I say this b/c with his frame he is going to be 250-260 before we know it...

Either way it is splitting hairs...We know what his greatest assests are...

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by Hodgepodge

He played WR his first two seasons. He's apparently grown significantly since he was listed at 6-4 190 last year.

He may well add another 15-20 pounds, which makes sense because he is 6-5, but it's a stretch to say at this point that he will be in the 250-270 range that you need to play TE. Keep in mind, he was listed as being 190 pounds just a couple of years ago. Also, to augment the case that he will be a TE, you need to demonstrate that he will be an effective blocker, and being able to block is not something that just comes with breaking the 250 pound weight mark. So far, Stoneburner has been used exclusively as a WR on offense.

[GatorsAreGood]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

He may well add another 15-20 pounds, which makes sense because he is 6-5, but it's a stretch to say at this point that he will be in the 250-270 range that you need to play TE. Keep in mind, he was listed as being 190 pounds just a couple of years ago. Also, to augment the case that he will be a TE, you need to demonstrate that he will be an effective blocker, and being able to block is not something that just comes with breaking the 250 pound weight mark. So far, Stoneburner has been used exclusively as a WR on offense.

Sorry to interrupt, but does it really matter if he plays TE or WR. I mean, he is going to play one or the other, but if he goes to Ohio State it won't matter which it is. Right?

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by GatorsAreGood

Sorry to interrupt, but does it really matter if he plays TE or WR. I mean, he is going to play one or the other, but if he goes to Ohio State it won't matter which it is. Right?

It's a purely academic discussion. You will see plenty of this before the kickoff to the new season.

[GatorsAreGood]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

It's a purely academic discussion. You will see plenty of this before the kickoff to the new season.

Good. I do enjoy it you know.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

He may well add another 15-20 pounds, which makes sense because he is 6-5, but it's a stretch to say at this point that he will be in the 250-270 range that you need to play TE.

The kid is listed as 6'5", 220 (and who knows how old that info is), and he's barely halfway through his junior year in high school. It is far from a stretch to see him at a solid 6'6", 255-260 by his sophomore year in college.

[jwinslow]

US Army Combine (warning PDF)

Last month, Jacob measured in at 6'5", 220 lbs, 32" vert, 4.54 40, 4.37 shuttle.

Excellent numbers, especially when you notice how well his 40 stacks up against the field (maybe a slow track?).

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

The kid is listed as 6'5", 220 (and who knows how old that info is), and he's barely halfway through his junior year in high school. It is far from a stretch to see him at a solid 6'6", 255-260 by his sophomore year in college.

I exaggerate a lot just to make a point. You should know that by now

[CleveBucks]

Probably the most impressive forty time at the combine when taking size into account. Almost nobody got down into the sub-4.6 range, and not at 220 lbs.

For the Roy Hall comparison, Hall could've been that type of player if he was more open-minded, imo.

['BusNative]

Originally Posted by osugrad21

Per Greg Powers, Jake has been offered.

I know I'm late to the game, but this is great news!

[RB07OSU]

Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40

Think Travis beckum, Flex type TE...

My thoughts exactly...Beckum is used as a serious pass threat more than a blocker(though he does block some). Great offer and he could do some real damage in the passing game. I think Rudolph and Stoneburner are 2 completely different players...Jake is more of a deep threat and flex guy, with Rudolph being a more complete blocker and threat down in the red zone. Good thing is that Jake can be a threat in the red zone as well and Rudolph can go to the intermediate routes as well. Bring 'em both in.

[jokewood]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

US Army Combine (warning PDF)

Last month, Jacob measured in at 6'5", 220 lbs, 32" vert, 4.54 40, 4.37 shuttle.

Excellent numbers, especially when you notice how well his 40 stacks up against the field (maybe a slow track?).

While the position drills were run inside the Alamo Dome, the testing was done outside. Supposedly the weather wasn't too nice (cool, wet, windy), which makes Stoneburner's 4.54 all the more impressive.

[wadc45]

Scout $

3/1

Update by the man, Greg Powers...review of Jake's recruitment thus far, starting at the AA combine. Talks about talking to JT and the basketball game last weekend.