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11-20-2006, 12:06 AM
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there was a lot of that yesterday....
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yes there was, really helped hart when our pursuit wa sbeing cut down
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11-20-2006, 02:17 PM
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Can someone explain what 'Roughing the Center' is? I have never, ever, in my life of watching football, college or pro, heard that before. The BS thing is that the center just has to keep his head down and flop when he's touched with two hands to get 15 free yards and an automatic first down. 
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11-20-2006, 02:20 PM
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Can someone explain what 'Roughing the Center' is? I have never, ever, in my life of watching football, college or pro, heard that before. The BS thing is that the center just has to keep his head down and flop when he's touched with two hands to get 15 free yards and an automatic first down. 
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Now my experience is only in high school, but the rules are similar. It's a safety issue more or less....
The umpire always tells the people near the center to keep their hands off until he has his head up.
the Michigan player was practically standing straight up when he was hit, but his head hadn't come up yet. So yes he milked it as much as he could, but at the same time, I don't think he embellished the hit any, he was run over as well....
It's a rule that is completely on the umpires interpretation, but there isn't a chance it will get changed because it's for "safety"
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11-20-2006, 02:24 PM
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It is absolutely a rule. We teach kids at the middle school level to stay off the center and any ref worth his salt yells it out before the ball is snapped.
"Stay off the center."
You can shoot the gaps all you want, but you can't run the center because he is in a "defenseless" position (head down looking back through his legs). It's designed to protect the player, obviously. It doesn't get called a lot, but it was a legit call, IMO.
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11-20-2006, 02:26 PM
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It is absolutely a rule. We teach kids at the middle school level to stay off the center and any ref worth his salt yells it out before the ball is snapped.
"Stay off the center."
You can shoot the gaps all you want, but you can't run the center because he is in a "defenseless" position (head down looking back through his legs). It's designed to protect the player, obviously. It doesn't get called a lot, but it was a legit call, IMO.
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What if the center doesnt raise his head?
You cant rush him for the whole play?
It is a penalty, but he took all the [censored]ing time in the world and still didnt raise his head.
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11-20-2006, 02:28 PM
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Right, but what I'm saying is Michigan's long snapper NEVER raised his head on any of their punts. I believe that the following two punts, Ohio State didn't even line anyone up over him, or remotely near him, after the penalty was called.
I understand the safety concern, but if he can simply look down the entire time than he can milk the rule, which UM did. I'm wondering if Carr saw something in OSU film and notified the officials that he wanted that called.
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11-20-2006, 02:37 PM
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You are giving Carr way too much credit to be able to think of something like that!!!
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11-20-2006, 02:59 PM
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So, how about the Center in a regular play? In the Shotgun formation he is just as exposed and defenseless. That is a BULL[censored] call.
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