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So basically it's the lowest of all the regional sports networks listed. Where's the problem again?
the quality of product.
the fact that fans of OSU and Michigan are being used to push the rest of the channel that will have basically nothing.
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Interesting post. Brings in some issues I wasn't thinking about.

Hmmmm, Texas in the Big 10? And leave behind Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas A & M... I think that's a "no-brainer."

Far more logical would be for the Big 10 to reach out to Syracuse... East Coast, adds a lot of geography to the scope of things. Iowa for sure does not want Iowa State in the mix. I don't think Penn State wants Pitt in. Bringing in Syracuse would revive a great rivalry game for the Nittany Lions, one I'm sure they miss.

Academically Syracuse would make for a better fit too.

I hate the idea of the Big 10 becoming one of those Thursday night leagues. That has to be hell on teams who play on Saturday and then face another team on les than a week's preperations and I'm sure it would [censored] off the MAC that looks at those games as their only chance for prime time exposure. With the loss of that income those schools could be facing the end of their football programs period. Miami only averages about 15 to 16K at their games as is and that has to be one of the better figures in a league of schools in out of the way places.
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Interesting post. Brings in some issues I wasn't thinking about.

Hmmmm, Texas in the Big 10? And leave behind Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas A & M... I think that's a "no-brainer."

Far more logical would be for the Big 10 to reach out to Syracuse... East Coast, adds a lot of geography to the scope of things. Iowa for sure does not want Iowa State in the mix. I don't think Penn State wants Pitt in. Bringing in Syracuse would revive a great rivalry game for the Nittany Lions, one I'm sure they miss.

Academically Syracuse would make for a better fit too.

I hate the idea of the Big 10 becoming one of those Thursday night leagues. That has to be hell on teams who play on Saturday and then face another team on les than a week's preperations and I'm sure it would [censored] off the MAC that looks at those games as their only chance for prime time exposure. With the loss of that income those schools could be facing the end of their football programs period. Miami only averages about 15 to 16K at their games as is and that has to be one of the better figures in a league of schools in out of the way places.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt the talk of another school joining the Big 10, purely speculation? I find it difficult to believe that the Big 10 would be able reach out to another school to get them to join the conference so the Big 10 could have enough teams for a league title game. It would seem to me that a team would come to the Big 10 about joining the conference before the Big 10 would approach another team to join the Big 10. (Although I guess the reason why I'm writing this is to ask, is that how conference switches work?)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt the talk of another school joining the Big 10, purely speculation? I find it difficult to believe that the Big 10 would be able reach out to another school to get them to join the conference so the Big 10 could have enough teams for a league title game. It would seem to me that a team would come to the Big 10 about joining the conference before the Big 10 would approach another team to join the Big 10. (Although I guess the reason why I'm writing this is to ask, is that how conference switches work?)

There are no plans to add another team to the Big Ten. It was just the writers "what if" proposition.
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There are no plans to add another team to the Big Ten. It was just the writers "what if" proposition.
Omaha, sorry to confuse you. the article posed the Texas Question. The Big 10 already asked Notre Dame to join about ten years ago and, as I understand it, the deal was all but done until Notre Dame's students and alums got wind of it and threw a monumental hissy fit.

That leads me to conclude that the Big 10 is always thinking about changes... what if Northwestern left, what if Chicago wanted back in (that's thrown in just for the humor of it), what if Penn State wanted to be champions again and went back to the Big East where they could be?

One thing is for sure, the league can't afford to be static in its thinking even though they may seem to be static in public on such an issue.
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Yep, OSU Sports looks like he was right on earlier in this thread (not sure if an apology or kudos are in order, but I'll just send both your way ).
Thanks for the kind words. I've taken a step back from this thread as emotions are running high on this topic. I understand the feelings of fans that will be affected by the decisions involved. I support the BTN and hope they don't concede to the cable demands. A lot of fans don't realize the impact that basketball will have on the viewership in states like Indiana and Illinois and Michigan(MSU basketball). Football, at programs like Indiana and Illinois, take a back seat to basketball. With the influx of high quality coaches at OSU, Indiana, Minnesota and Purdue, the conference is attracting a lot of national attention. You already have Izzo at MSU, who is considered as one of the top coaches in the nation. The point is that there will be a premium demand to see Big Ten basketball in these states. The BTN will offer at least 105 games, that's huge for the first year of programming. By comparison, ESPN plus offered 100 games last year. The bottom line is that the Big Ten wants to eventually control their own destiny and not be dependent on ESPiN and other networks to deliver their own product. To me, that's a wise business decision. I want to see the profits go to the Big Ten, not end up in Bristol. Let me say one brief thing about programming. I have seen negative comments about the "off season" programing on the BTN. I would rather watch old OSU games on the BTN than a "spelling bee" on ESPiN. Again, I'm stepping back so others can vent their emotions(which I understand). Here is a comparison chart to see the impact of basketball

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