DL John Simon (official thread)

[scott91575]

Originally Posted by bucklifer

He doesn't seem to have a lot of beast to me. Honestly, I like the film I've seen on Whitner more.

It's a little troubling that a HS kid with all that size (which is odd) can't push people around. I see him as being a solid contributor and perhaps eventually as a starter. However, I don't think he is going to be a dominant force at the tackle position.

Yeah, and every school in the nation would give him a scholarship. Shocking you have such negative rep. Honestly, do you just like it and post to get bad rep. Essentially you are a sadomasocistic rep whore.

[wadc45]

bucklifer is entitled to his/her opinions...no matter how ridiculous the rest of us may think they are (and that one is reaching new levels)...

I don't put a lot of stock in recruiting services rankings but Simon looks to be a high 4-star or even 5-star by both services. Couple that with the fact that almost every college in America was in on Simon since last year and I think that speak volumes to his talents and potential...at least more so than the opinion of a poster on an Internet site...

[GrizzlyBuck]

I watched the Mooney vs Coldwater game on TW on demand (if you have time warner digital, I think you may get this channel 1111, go to sports, there are 4-5 Mooney games you can watch) Simon has loads of potential, he has good size, is very athletic and seems to have a good motor, seldom giving up on a play. The things he lacks (playing a little high) are coachable, the sky is the limit for him.

We have to remember Simon next year if we have some recruiting disappointments as we tend to forget about the early commiting studs.

[wadc45]

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By Jardy...article about Simon and Homan committing to OSU so early in the process and how both watched other get recruited by OSU and got comfortable with the staff (Simon-McCarthy/Zordich, Homan-older brother Ross).

[moopdawg]

Hey folks,

first time posting on this site even though I read it a lot. I really appreciate how knowledgeable and respectful the posters are here. I live in California now, so I never see any of these Ohio high schoolers play in person. My question about Simon is how much bigger can he get? I've seen pictures of him, and for a kid this young, he looks like a grown man. Do you all think he will put on additional weight and will be lining up at defensive tackle at OSU? Thanks in advance for your responses.

[GoodLifeSean]

I think he could put on the weight, however personally, I would love to see hime 15 or 20 lbs heavier at the end of freshman year as a balanced DE. Between size and speed, could provide a nice switch up

[RB07OSU]

Originally Posted by GoodLifeSean

I think he could put on the weight, however personally, I would love to see hime 15 or 20 lbs heavier at the end of freshman year as a balanced DE. Between size and speed, could provide a nice switch up

He could be an effective DE but I definetly like him at DT and we are in dire need of DT's, which almost assigns him to DT. I really like his leverage, drive, and burst...I think he has the tools to be a great DT.

[osugrad21]

Originally Posted by moopdawg

Hey folks,

first time posting on this site even though I read it a lot. I really appreciate how knowledgeable and respectful the posters are here. I live in California now, so I never see any of these Ohio high schoolers play in person. My question about Simon is how much bigger can he get? I've seen pictures of him, and for a kid this young, he looks like a grown man. Do you all think he will put on additional weight and will be lining up at defensive tackle at OSU? Thanks in advance for your responses.

John is that rare HS kid that has the numbers and mass of a college player already. He needs to be molded of course but most of his improvement has to come in the lateral movement/burst department...a college level flexibility program will have an immediate impact there.

[GrizzlyBuck]

Originally Posted by moopdawg

Hey folks,

first time posting on this site even though I read it a lot. I really appreciate how knowledgeable and respectful the posters are here. I live in California now, so I never see any of these Ohio high schoolers play in person. My question about Simon is how much bigger can he get? I've seen pictures of him, and for a kid this young, he looks like a grown man. Do you all think he will put on additional weight and will be lining up at defensive tackle at OSU? Thanks in advance for your responses.

I've only seen one game of Simon's, so take this with a truckload of grains of salt. He has a nice frame, and does not look at all heavy anywhere, from his legs to his upperbody, so there is room for weight gain.

I'm not saying he is thin either, like Grad said, he has a college ready body now, just that there is room for more growth, I also whole heartedly agree with Grad that increased flexibility will play huge dividends as he plays maybe a little stiff and too upright. But what he has can't be taught, mean streak, burst, strength, speed for his size etc.

[osugrad21]

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From The Bank...

John discusses his Jr. Day visit, his relationship with the staff, building a bond with his future teammates, and meeting Mike Brewster and Melvin Fellows.

[alpo]

Originally Posted by osugrad21

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From The Bank...

John discusses his Jr. Day visit, his relationship with the staff, building a bond with his future teammates, and meeting Mike Brewster and Melvin Fellows.

Thanks Grad for the heads up on this MrSimon biz, and I like the odds anytime when somebody that we need/want, (MrFellows), is mentioned in the same sentence w/MrBrewster, the ultimate student closer!

And thanks for a previous post where you addressed the flexibility issue. Personally, I don't think flexibility is mentioned, considered or prioritized enough in 'conversation' regarding talent levels, especially as it regards lineman, and specifically defensive lineman, imho. Good to know for us, 'not in the know'.

[osugrad21]

Rivals $

John meaured in at 6'3 and 275 pounds at the 5-Star Academy.

[OregonBuckeye]

Nice.

[troy88]

i could see johnny simon becoming a chris long in 4 years! : D

[Napoleonbuck]

I don't see that comparison. Of recent linemen who have gone through college, the one Simon really reminds me of is Amobi Okoye.

The difference being Simon won't be entering college at 16 so I think he'll be better suited to making a more immediate impact(though Okoye did play early at Louisville, his game wasn't elite until the second half of his junior season and into his senior season).