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Goebel was a good get and I think he has the drive to be not only a solid contributer, but also a starter. However, I see him as a little long and lean for a defensive tackle. Indeed, when you watch him wrestle, he relies more on his quickness and offesnive acumen to score than he does on leverage and brute power. In other words, he is quite "caty" for a heavyweight. I don't know how well that will translate to success at the DT position at a major college football program.

Does Heacock, contrary to the conventional wisdom, like tall defensive tackles? If so, why? I haven't seen much out of Abdallah and Worthington (who was a 5-star).

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Lifer, far from knowledgeble about Heacocks preferences, but he has had some fairly tall DT's during his reign. K. Peterson and D Scott played a lot at DT and were both DE/DT hybrids so they were pretty tall 6'3"-6'5" he has also used shorter ones. I wonder if he does not somewhat alter his schemes to match his players skill set. The big space eaters demand help to move them out and the smaller (weight wise) and taller use their quickness to create problems.

Even if GG is not a brute strength type, he'll sure add some of that, while keeping his quickness in the S&C at tOSU.

My big concern is will the Gladiator be able to keep his conditioning while dispatching his foes in such short order
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Does Heacock, contrary to the conventional wisdom, like tall defensive tackles? If so, why? I haven't seen much out of Abdallah and Worthington (who was a 5-star).
That's a pretty unfair measuring stick. Abdallah arrived as a sleeper, and Worthington a DE. If Maupin & Cotton keep their stuff together, he might stay outside.

He's not that much taller than some recent talented DTs: 6'4" Wilkinson, 6'3" Pickett, 6'3" Anderson, 6'3" Peterson, 6'3" Scott.

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Indeed, when you watch him wrestle, he relies more on his quickness and offesnive acumen to score than he does on leverage and brute power. In other words, he is quite "caty" for a heavyweight. I don't know how well that will translate to success at the DT position at a major college football program.
I take it you never saw Fickell on the mat.
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GOEBEL WINS DVORAK, OUTSTANDING WRESTLER AWARD

Garrett pinned the #2 ranked wrestler in California in 45 seconds to clinch the title. He was not only awarded the OW award but also brought home the hardware for the most pins in the least amount of time. It was a great tournament with state champs and place winners from Illinois, Texas, Colorado and Iowa.
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Drops to 2nd place after last 2 matches; Neuqua Valley 3rd

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MACHESNEY PARK, Ill. -- The two-day Al Dvorak Memorial wrestling invitational had 868 matches scheduled over the weekend. With only two remaining Saturday afternoon, the team championship still was undecided.

Montini roared back from a 24-point deficit to take the lead heading into the finals. But Iowa City West won the final two bouts -- and two others in the championship round -- to edge Montini 197.5-189.5 for the team title.
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Dvorak Outstanding Wrestler winner Garrett Goebel pinned his way through the tournament for the Broncos. The heavyweight wrestled only 3 minutes 57 seconds in his four matches.

"This was my last time at the Dvorak. I wanted to finish," said Goebel, who will play football next year at Ohio State. "I was motivated. I wanted to make a statement in this tournament."
Montini takes it to the wire on ChicagoSports.com
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Here is the link to Garrett's :45 sec. pin of Kasey Cowan, California's #2 ranked 285 lb. wrestler

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Here is the link to Garrett's :45 sec. pin of Kasey Cowan, California's #2 ranked 285 lb. wrestler

http://download.illinoismatmen.com/v...7Finals285.wmv
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How far is GGG away from breaking that illinois record for wins (or was it pins?)

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Athletes of the Week, 12-25-2007
ChicagoSports.com's top prep performers chosen from your nominations

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Garrett Goebel, Montini: Was named the outstanding wrestler Saturday at the Al Dvorak Memorial tournament, one of the state's top regular season competitions. Goebel won each of this matches in tournament by pin to win the heavyweight title. He is 19-0 for the season, with 17 pins, and has had only one point scored against him all season.
Athletes of the Week, 12-25-2007 on ChicagoSports.com
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Senior highlights.

My take: I knew Garrett was a football player...but he was more of a grinder in his earlier highlights. This collection, and it is a huge collection, displays tremendous athleticism and polish for a HS DLineman. He has excellent hand placement and sheds blocks well while also holding his gap integrity. Shows a great natural understanding of leverage and the all-important redirection skill. I was excited about Garrett before...but this highlight film has me thinking big things for GG. Highly impressed.
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Considering he's such a great athlete, I expected him to either bull rush or simply run around the offensive line. However, he showed an array of pass rushing moves. On one play, he used two consecutive swim moves to get by the lineman and then the running back. He finished the play by sacking the quarterback.

Really a great lineman in the Quinn Pitcock mold.
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I know I posted this on the previous page but I didn't want it to get lost after a new page was started so I deleted it and moved it here so people could see it with osugrad's review as well...

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Senior film.

He is a freak...and I mean that in a good way. Kids this big are not supposed to be able to play that low and that fast. Watching film of kids like Goebel, Posey and Williams makes me realize just how amazing this class is. Everyone is focused on Block O, Pryor, etc. but we already have some studs in this class that have tremendous potential. Goebel is one of those studs...

FYI, until now I don't think I've ever seen a kid use the swim move on three defenders in the same play to get a sack...
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