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View Poll Results: Who's the Greatest Buckeye Quarterback? (Please vote for two)
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Joe Germaine
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13.38% |
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Cornelius Greene
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2.97% |
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Bobby Hoying
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5.58% |
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Rex Kern
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42.75% |
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Craig Krenzel
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Art Schlichter
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16.73% |
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Troy Smith
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84.39% |
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Other
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08-30-2007, 05:39 PM
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I have Krenzel and Troy in that order and Kern a close 3rd. Krenzels performance in 2002 considering the team he had to work with was
brilliant and did alot on his own in the purdue and Illinois games. The one big thing that hurt Rex Kern was his not so good performance with 6 Int's in the 69 Michigan game. Ohio State had a great chance to finish undefeated in the 69 season and possible N/C game. The one great ability that Kern had was his the fake keepers and smooth hand offs he could perform with Brockington and Otis.
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08-30-2007, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kippy1040
I have Krenzel and Troy in that order and Kern a close 3rd. Krenzels performance in 2002 considering the team he had to work with was
brilliant and did alot on his own in the purdue and Illinois games. The one big thing that hurt Rex Kern was his not so good performance with 6 Int's in the 69 Michigan game. Ohio State had a great chance to finish undefeated in the 69 season and possible N/C game. The one great ability that Kern had was his the fake keepers and smooth hand offs he could perform with Brockington and Otis.
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tOSU would not have gone to a bowl after the 1969 season, win or lose in AA. The 'no repeat' rule would have kept them home - but they would have won the NC without going to the bowl.
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08-31-2007, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SparkyOSU
Krenzel did just as many amazing things without being the athlete smith was. He also did it with a group of guys that less national attention.
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My issue with picking Krenzel here is that he was the biggest beneficiary of a superior defense, arguably one the greatest (and entirely underrated) defensive lines to ever go through the college ranks. FWIW, Smith, Anderson, Peterson, and Scott were all first day draft picks, and have thus far combined for 72 NFL starts and 161 NFL games played. If the OSU defense gave the Krenzel lead offense a few extra possessions, either from TOs or 3-and-outs, OSU might add a FG or a TD, but when the OSU defense gave Troy extra possessions, they struck right back for demoralizing, game ending TDs.
When Krenzel lead the team, I usually wondered if they'd score 17 points and whether or not that'd be enough to win with that defense. When Troy took the field, I usually wondered if they'd cover the spread.
I don't want to besmirch Krenzel. He was a GREAT QB. But, in my book, its Troy and then everybody else. January 8 is inconsequential to the discussion to me, because Troy didn't play D, didn't design a defensive game plan that gave a four-year starter from a SEC program soft zone coverage, and Troy didn't play O-Line either.
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08-31-2007, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BB73
tOSU would not have gone to a bowl after the 1969 season, win or lose in AA. The 'no repeat' rule would have kept them home - but they would have won the NC without going to the bowl.
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Just out of curiosity, when did the "no repeat" rule get blasted? It couldn't have been much later. Didn't Ohio State go to the Rose Bowl in 1972 and then again in 1973?
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Originally Posted by Dryden
My issue with picking Krenzel here is that he was the biggest beneficiary of a superior defense, arguably one the greatest (and entirely underrated) defensive lines to ever go through the college ranks. FWIW, Smith, Anderson, Peterson, and Scott were all first day draft picks, and have thus far combined for 72 NFL starts and 161 NFL games played. If the OSU defense gave the Krenzel lead offense a few extra possessions, either from TOs or 3-and-outs, OSU might add a FG or a TD, but when the OSU defense gave Troy extra possessions, they struck right back for demoralizing, game ending TDs.
When Krenzel lead the team, I usually wondered if they'd score 17 points and whether or not that'd be enough to win with that defense. When Troy took the field, I usually wondered if they'd cover the spread.
I don't want to besmirch Krenzel. He was a GREAT QB. But, in my book, its Troy and then everybody else. January 8 is inconsequential to the discussion to me, because Troy didn't play D, didn't design a defensive game plan that gave a four-year starter from a SEC program soft zone coverage, and Troy didn't play O-Line either. |
I completely agree. You can't be a Buckeye fan and not appreciate what Krenzel did. But when you talk about the greatest OSU QB, I think about who generated the most excitement when he had the ball in his hands. I got excited every time Troy trotted out on the field. It was like, how will Troy lead us to a score on this series? He was a great leader and unbelievably creative. If it weren't for that debacle in the desert, this one wouldn't even be up for discussion. The man beat scUM 3 straight times...that seals it for me.
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08-31-2007, 05:25 PM
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