Some BCS facts for your SEC friends

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by Muck

Indiana vs Kentucky all time:

18-17

Are we talking historical or the lifetime of the current players, or the BCS era here?

Only the former is a Big-10 edge. The latter two favor Kentucky. And as much as I appreciate tradition (Brown has more MNCs than UF) I tend to rank the recent more important as the past. I mean, we're talking now, are we not, or at least since the fifth year seniors first came to school?

I hear ya Muck, but are leather helmet games between Kentucky and Indiana really relevant to the current conference strength?

I wish we could reserve one game a year for two years, with a start date five years away, and have a Big-10/SEC Conference match up from top to bottom, based upon the prior year's standings. A true home and home between the two full conferences. What a great thing that would be, and the fans (me anyway) would go nuts!! We'd get a chance to visit some great venues, and to see matchups we never get to see. They could make an "UN-Civil War" TV package for ESPN, showing and replaying all the games.

And then after the yelling subsided, we'd all await the next year's revenge at our stadium. Sweet Jesus, I'd love it.

[SparkyOSU]

Originally Posted by SparkyOSU

SI.com - Writers - College Football Mailbag (cont.) - Wednesday September 5, 2007 2:56PM



Remeber to read sarcrasm in his response to this question:

Stewart's answer???? Just read it!!!!OH MY!!!!

Gezz, I posted and still had to go back and read...this is the best SEC 'in response' ever!

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by goodguy

w ---- 2006 ---- Penn State ---- 4 ---- Tennessee ---- 5
w ---- 2006 ---- Wisconsin ---- 3 ---- Arkansas ---- 3
l ---- 2006 ---- Ohio State ---- 1 ---- Florida ---- 1


I've point out or have observed others point out to SEC fan that Arkansas (the second best SEC team) and Tennessee both lost to Big Ten teams. Same response is given "yeah....but........SEC blah blah...... " But what about Wisconsin and Penn State beating SEC teams. "yeah...... but......SEC blah blah...top to bottom blah blah....

If your top teams are 1-2 against the Big Ten, how are you better TOP to bottom? hmmmm

I meant the phrase as "overall", and more specifically, the two conferences' top teams both being equal, but the SEC bottom being more of a threat to the SEC top that the Big-10 bottom was to the Big-10 top as far as upsets and the "on any given day" thing. Not meant as a slight. I just think that your lower tier teams are more of a sure "W" when you play them than our lower tier teams are a "W" when we play them. They mostly all scare the crap out of me on any given Satuday. Could be wrong, as I do not follow your games as much as ours.

[Dryden]

Originally Posted by Gatorubet

I meant the phrase as "overall", and more specifically, the two conferences' top teams both being equal, but the SEC bottom being more of a threat to the SEC top that the Big-10 bottom was to the Big-10 top as far as upsets and the "on any given day" thing. Not meant as a slight. I just think that your lower tier teams are more of a sure "W" when you play them than our lower tier teams are a "W" when we play them. They mostly all scare the crap out of me on any given Satuday. Could be wrong, as I do not follow your games as much as ours.

I think anyone on this board respects that no matter how bad Purdue, Illinois, Michigan St, Northwestern and Minnesota are, they're never easy outs. All of these teams have been to bowl games this decade, and each has traditionally had an offensive style, call it a 'gimmick' if you choose, that makes them incredibly difficult to defense. Minnesota's running game under Glen Mason was always good -- Alabama and Arkansas both have bowl losses to them in the past five years that emphasize that point.

Indiana is traditionally the only 'sure thing' for the heavyweights, and that appeared to begin changing when Terry Hoeppner (RIP) took over. Cam Cameron and Gerry DiNardo made a real mess of that program. When Hoep took over in 2005, Indiana didn't even have 85 scholarship players, despite having 85 scholarships to give. It wasn't like they were on probation or anything. That situation was an absolute train wreck.

I think there are some good coaches at some of these programs now that will balance the conference a little further in the next three to four years. Zook will undoubtedly have Illinois loaded for next season, it's a question of whether or not he can do anything with it (I'm sure you appreciate and understand that). Mark Dantonio instantly gives Michigan State credibility as well.

As for the top, I would put Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State against any other conferences' Top 3 any day. I have no comment on Michigan or Iowa at this time.

[Bucknut24]

i was having an argument with about 4 sec guys the other day, and as soon as i said those stats....they all shut up and we didn't talk about big 10 vs sec the rest of the time....it was great

[BengalsAndBucks]

Originally Posted by Gatorubet

I wish we could reserve one game a year for two years, with a start date five years away, and have a Big-10/SEC Conference match up from top to bottom, based upon the prior year's standings. A true home and home between the two full conferences. What a great thing that would be, and the fans (me anyway) would go nuts!! We'd get a chance to visit some great venues, and to see matchups we never get to see. They could make an "UN-Civil War" TV package for ESPN, showing and replaying all the games.

And then after the yelling subsided, we'd all await the next year's revenge at our stadium. Sweet Jesus, I'd love it.

You mean just like Big 10 basketball already does with the ACC?

[Buckeneye]

and I quote...


"USC beats Auburn 23-0 in 2003? That wasn't one of Auburn's better teams. Auburn goes 12-0 the next year and gets left out of the BCS title game? A crime against humanity"


So if tOSU runs the table (and I mean +10 points vs Wisc, Mich, Purdue & Penn) and we get left out of the title game.... would that be a crime against humanity too? --- this guys a [censored]tard.

[Bestbuck36]

Originally Posted by Buckeneye