Some BCS facts for your SEC friends

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

Give me a break! 95% of that attendance is more people than Kentucky puts into their OWN stadium. If you take into account the 7500-10,000 visiting fans at Kentucky HOME games, the 'Cats rarely put 60,000 in their House. You expect me to beleive that brought 65,000 out of state to a game? Kentucky football does not have a great following. Never did. Florida St. may not have traveled well because of the Bull[censored] that happened leading up to the game, but you can't blame that on the SEC. In any normal year, that game would have been at BEST 55/45 in favor of Kentucky.

As an FSU grad I just wanted to point out Kentucky owned 80-85% of that stadium. A Music City Bowl record for attendance was also set. There were lots of seats still available in the upper deck but of those attendees that were there it was easily dominated by UK. I think the support is less b/c of academic suspensions and more because UK fans haven't had a football season like this in so long.

FSU doesn't travel well, and playing Kentucky at a stadium geographically close to Lexington is what created the home atmosphere for Kentucky. Even if the game were in Jacksonville or Orlando it would have been 50/50 FSU/UK fans in the house IMO. A few years ago WVU had more fans than FSU fans at All-tell stadium in Jacksonville.

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by DCBuckeye07

As someone in the building industry...the design of them specifically...its 95% of the time about "dollars and cents"

But if a stadium is already built, other factors are very relevant. Would Oregon like a 75,000 seat stadium? I would think so, but at this point it's possible they'd rather have a 54,000 seat stadium rather than constructing a new stadium until it's in the budget. It's also not easy to just turn a 40,000 seat stadium into a 75,000 seat stadium, especially if it's a closed end stadium, unlike the horse shoe and Orange Bowl when they could close the endzone in and add thousands of seats.

Also, history obviously plays a large role as well. I was just pointing out that if it were all about dollars and cents Duke would tear down Cameron and rebuild an arena with 15,000 more seats.

[DCBuckeye07]

Originally Posted by billmac91

But if a stadium is already built, other factors are very relevant. Would Oregon like a 75,000 seat stadium? I would think so, but at this point it's possible they'd rather have a 54,000 seat stadium rather than constructing a new stadium until it's in the budget. It's also not easy to just turn a 40,000 seat stadium into a 75,000 seat stadium, especially if it's a closed end stadium, unlike the horse shoe and Orange Bowl when they could close the endzone in and add thousands of seats.

Also, history obviously plays a large role as well. I was just pointing out that if it were all about dollars and cents Duke would tear down Cameron and rebuild an arena with 15,000 more seats.

I think you just contradicted yourself, determining whether or not to keep a 54000 seat stadium based on budget, although the desire for a new one is there, is still a budget issue (actually by definition is one). Yes, if its a renovation, other factors emerge. But those factors displace the ones that would otherwise be there in new construction. When it comes to bottom line budgetary issues, they still exist in their own little world, typically not related to whether its a renovation or new construction.

[Bleed S & G]

Originally Posted by GaBuckeyeFan

I love my Buckeyes, but I am also a realist.

Oxymoron my friend, oxymoron.

[Nutriaitch]

Originally Posted by billmac91

I think the support is less b/c of academic suspensions and more because UK fans haven't had a football season like this in so long.

I'll give in on the game being a home game for UK. But this season is almost a mirror image of last year for them.

a few losses, string of wins, Music City Bowl, 8-5 [mirror]8-5, Music City Bowl, string of wins, a few losses

Originally Posted by billmac91

It's also not easy to just turn a 40,000 seat stadium into a 75,000 seat stadium, especially if it's a closed end stadium, unlike the horse shoe and Orange Bowl when they could close the endzone in and add thousands of seats.

LSU added Upper Decks over the lower Bowl on each Sideline. The newest one upped capacity from 78k to 92k.

[DCBuckeye07]

Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

LSU added Upper Decks over the lower Bowl on each Sideline. The newest one upped capacity from 78k to 92k.

Well that sounds easy enough

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

If they felt they could have readliy sold out a 60-65k, that's what they would have gone up to. Instead they felt that 54 was a better number. Supply vs. demand.

Re-read my post where I said: "Maybe the infrastructure of the stadium would only allow so much expansion." Also see the below quote from billmac91's post...

Originally Posted by billmac91

maybe they can't structually support 15,000 more seats without a building a completely new stadium?

By the way, the Ducks have a current streak of 55 straight sellouts at Autzen going back to the 1999 season.

[DCBuckeye07]

yeah, definitely the latter...they would, no doubt, maximize the number of seats they can get.