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Can't say I feel that way about our neighbors. Louisiana pretty much ranks 49th in all meaningful economic and education categories. If not for Mississippi, we'd be dead last. So I kinda hope those rednecks don't go anywhere.
Nevada, where I earned my prestigious education, is currently 50th in Nation test scores.

We don't have pro sports teams, I'll be damned if you're going to take the one thing we DO have.

Oh yeah, we got legalized prostitution also. =D
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Mitchell Blog: Where's all the $ coming from?

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Posted Jan 26, 2009


Brace yourself, non-SEC fans. As the saying goes, follow the money
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ESPN/CBS CONTRACTS

True, the Southeastern (Football) Conference has always been a leader in the coaching “arms race”. But an explosion in spending the past 12 months can be directly attributed to the new television contracts quietly announced before the start of the 2008 season.

Beginning this year, the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network takes over for Raycom Sports – which is a bit like saying Nick Saban took over for Mike Shula.

And the network has agreed to pay $2.25B for the rights to 15 years of SEC sports broadcasting. That’s about double what Raycom was paying.

ESPN will write a check for $150M in 2009; roughly $12.5M per school. Per year. For 15 years.

But it doesn’t stop there… Not to be outdone, CBS has stepped up its contribution. The Black Rock boys will now pay $55M per annum, for 15 years.

Anyone have a calculator?

That’s ~$205M per season; roughly $17M per school. It means SEC institutions in 2009 will have an extra $6M per school – about a 50% jump YoY.

And my mama always said you can buy a lot of coaching with an extra $6M.
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Second, for those of you tired of hearing about how great the SEC is, we recommend these. If you just paid $2.25B for something, and just happened to have a stable of broadcasting stations at your avail, what would you do with your shiny new toy?

Exactly.

This season ESPN will likely broadcast every SEC football game, every weekend, on one station or another. Who needs a Big 10 Network? After that, we can expect to see more “classics”, Gameday visits, highlights and promotions...
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Herbstreit and Danielson now officially in a race to see who can outblow the other one in an ever escalating SEC hype fest.

This should be fun.
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Financial considerations prompt Florida State Seminoles to agree to face South Florida Bulls in home-and-home football series - St. Petersburg Times

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But FSU reversed field this month, finalizing a home-and-home series with the Bulls that begins Sept. 26 in Tallahassee and culminates Sept. 29, 2012, in Tampa. "The big plus is this: They'll fill the stadium," Bowden said of the Bulls. "We bring in Western Carolina, we bring in Chattanooga, and we can't fill our stadium. We can't pay the bills like that."

In the recently concluded season, FSU averaged an announced crowd of 77,968 at Doak Campbell Stadium, its lowest since 1997's 74,400. Capacity was 80,000 at that time. It's now 82,300. FSU had just one sellout in 2008: Florida. And even then, the stands weren't full.
"We had several games where there were more empty seats than we ever hope to see in our stadium," said FSU athletic director Randy Spetman, hired in February to replace Dave Hart.
I posted this on the College football thread, but I am reposting it here to show just how big a deal this may be. As the economy tanks, and giving for things like athletic booster club fees and tickets themselves is reduced, it may be that the average revenue received by most schools goes backward instead of forward. If it tracks the economy, and athletic budgets are one of the victims, then the SEC's revenue increase could play an even bigger role, as facilities spending and recruiting spending decreases in other markets (conferences).

While I do not see that happening to tOSU, given the level of support, damage to the Big-10 budgets could hurt facilities and recruiting in other programs, and that could impact other teams by virtue of SOS and conference strength perception.

Then again, the TV deal that y'all (Big-10) have could be just as sweet, but I am simply not familiar with it.
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I posted this on the College football thread, but I am reposting it here to show just how big a deal this may be. As the economy tanks, and giving for things like athletic booster club fees and tickets themselves is reduced, it may be that the average revenue received by most schools goes backward instead of forward. If it tracks the economy, and atheltic budgets are one of the victims, then the SEC's revenue increase could play an even bigger role, as facilities spending and recruiting spending decreases in other markets (conferences).
Good thing the NCAA has those evil text messages under control
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Then again, the TV deal that y'all (Big-10) have could be just as sweet, but I am simply not familiar with it.
It's not even close... and the b10 network doesn't help paint the reality of CFB (rankings, heisman, etc).
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The Big Ten has 51 percent ownership of the Big Ten Network; News Corp. owns the balance. While the Big Ten in its annual filing did not detail how much the partnership contributed to overall conference revenue, News Corp. indicated in a March 10-Q federal filing that the conference could receive an average of $112 million annually over the course of the deal. This year, according to that News Corp. filing, the network is paying the conference $66 million. The rights fee escalates over the course of the deal.
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The new, 10-year national rights contract with ABC/ESPN is valued at $1 billion, starting at $83 million in the 2007-08 fiscal year, according to the Big Ten filing.
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Good thing the NCAA has those evil text messages under control
It's not even close... and the b10 network doesn't help paint the reality of CFB (rankings, heisman, etc).
Sounds like the rich get richer and the USFs, Utahs and Rutgers of the world should hold onto their CDs of recent games as proof of the "Good Old Days"..
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Gator I know you are with me in having a scoff at the program in Tally openly admitting they can't fill their own stadium. By contrast the South Carolina bunch sold out every home game in a year they went 0-11 a while back.

Nothing screams "we have no real tradition that wasn't forced in the past 20 years" than that.

Never has their been a more front running, bandwagon riding, wannabe big time group of mouthbreathing suckholes than the FSU mob.
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Gator I know you are with me in having a scoff at the program in Tally openly admitting they can't fill their own stadium. By contrast the South Carolina bunch sold out every home game in a year they went 0-11 a while back.

Nothing screams "we have no real tradition that wasn't forced in the past 20 years" than that.

Never has their been a more front running, bandwagon riding, wannabe big time group of mouthbreathing suckholes than the FSU mob.
USC and Miami say hello.
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USC and Miami say hello.
Particularly Miami. My God, they've barely had 50% capacity at times it seems...
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It's not even close... and the b10 network doesn't help paint the reality of CFB (rankings, heisman, etc).
ive been saying that since the b10 ended their contract with espn (espn plus etc). glad im no longer alone on my bandwagon...
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AJC investigation: Many athletes lag far behind on SAT scores | ajc.com
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FOOTBALL SAT SCORES:
THE TOP 10
School, Average
Georgia Tech, 1028
Oregon State, 997
Michigan, 997
Virginia, 993
Purdue, 974
Indiana, 973
Hawaii, 968
California, 967
Colorado, 966
Iowa, 964
THE BOTTOM 10
School, Average
Oklahoma State, 878
Louisville, 878
Memphis, 890
Florida, 890
Texas Tech, 901
Arkansas, 910
Texas A&M, 911
Mississippi State, 911
Washington State, 916
Michigan State, 917
Anyone know what OSU's average is?
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The University of Oklahoma and the University of Florida, whose football teams play Jan. 8 for the national championship, ranked near the bottom in standardized test scores. Florida?s freshman football classes of 2002-04 ranked 50th in average score out of 53 schools for which football SAT averages were available, and Oklahoma?s freshman football classes of 2001-03 ranked 42nd. Florida?s football players ranked last in average high school GPA, at 2.54. The average for all football players in the study was 2.93.
As for Mich St, they've usually been tossed in the same category when it comes to academic standards in recruiting. Posts here and elsewhere will bear that out.
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Anyone know what OSU's average is?

As for Mich St, they've usually been tossed in the same category when it comes to academic standards in recruiting. Posts here and elsewhere will bear that out.
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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution gathered the information for this project via public records requests to every public university that competes in a Bowl Championship Series conference or finished in the 2007-08 season's football or men's basketball Top 25s. Once every 10 years, each NCAA member school is required to undergo an athletics certification process. The SAT and core GPA data presented here came from reports the universities filed as part of that process. (All the same year?)
A few universities are so open about their athletics departments? performance that they publish the report containing their SAT and GPA data on their Web sites. Others, such as Penn State and the University of Pittsburgh, refused to provide it. The University of Kansas and West Virginia University said their most recent NCAA certification self-study did not include the information.
The SAT scores in this study are on the 1600-point scale that predates the addition of an SAT writing component. For schools that reported ACT scores, we derived comparable SAT scores using the NCAA?s conversion chart. Some schools refused to provide men?s basketball SAT scores on the grounds it would violate the privacy rights of individual athletes. Kansas State University did not provide the AJC any sport-by-sport data.
Private schools were not included in this project because they are not subject to public records laws. The NCAA does not release the school-by-school information; it considers it confidential.
FWI, the article could be comparing similar years' rankings, or comparing data that is ten year's old, or comparing ten year old data from one school with last year's data from another. So I remain a bit of a skeptic. Our kids are doing so well under Urban academically, and our team GPA is so high, that I have a feeling that it is old data.

Plus, it is a Leg Humping Mutt loving news source, so I can't trust it.
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