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10-24-2007, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Gatorubet
Honestly, the tops are equals, with the depth of the SEC a little deeper. This January aside, it is clear to me that we are competitive. Recent Iowa games with UF and a loss to Michigan State demonstrated that. One more thing to argue about I suppose, but to say that you are better or we are better is meaningless sans a top to bottom head and head. That would be great for the fans, but it will never happen.
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Dead on. And I would add the caveat that its a moving target, some years one is better than the other but its never as absolute or as long as some would like to believe.
Also, I agree wholeheartedly with using the current SEC time frame or the BCS era to compare conferences today, specifically the BCS era. Its the time we are in, it's relevant and its just long enough now to be a decent sample size.
And just in case anyone was wondering... head to head in Bowl games during the BCS era the B10 leads the SEC 13-11. 
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10-24-2007, 10:51 AM
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Time to start scheduling the Ivy Leauge again. We need to put those elitist monkeys in their place.
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10-24-2007, 11:08 AM
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Haaaang on Sloopy, Sloopy Hang on!! O.. H.. I.. O.
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Originally Posted by SNIPER26
A nice find. However, your numbers are off. LSU and Florida play in the SEC, and that takes off .5 off their 40 times and adds .5 to yours . So Trindon Holliday is really running a 3.72 and Mo Wells, the fastest guy from what I saw (I quickly skimmed) really runs a 4.92. Silly Big 10 homer
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 Even if you are a scUMmer, that was pretty funny.
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Cool, must have missed the note at the bottom.... did you change it  |
 No it was there the whole time.
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10-24-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BGriffBuckeye
Yeah, I said int he note at the bottom, and what you said is basically the reason. He is their leading rusher, and they don't even use James in the running game all that often, if at all, so they are lucky I threw him in there too.
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Well, those are just the stop watch times. When you sign a letter of intent with the SEC school you get a secret e-mail telling you how to access the on-the-field SEC speed, which you are sworn to keep secret. Every couple of OOC games we have to turn it off, so as not to raise suspicion.
Don't tell anyone. 
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10-24-2007, 03:15 PM
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Excellent work--give that man a medal!
Excellent work, BGriff. I started spreading this around, including to some press contacts. This should prove to be the defining factor in helping me win drinks in bar bets.
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Originally Posted by BGriffBuckeye
Here is a more updated graphic comparing our speed to that of the 2 tops dogs in the SEC: LSU and Florida. I got the numbers from NFLDarftScout.com, which are updated throughout the player's stay at the university and are more accurate than the previous numbers I used from Rivals when they were recruits, which are rarely ever right. Anyways, take a look and come to your own conclusions. I used the guys that see the most PT, not the whole depth at the position. The kid can be fast as heck, but if they don't get on the field they don't count. Personally, I am blown away at the speed we have in the secondary and I was amazed how favorably we matched up with their DE speed.
Note: I used Torrence in stead of Sanzenbacher because he was next in line as far as WR stats go, since I could not find the Great Dane's NFL DS profile. The only QB I used was Tebow, for obvious reasons, since he is their leading rusher. I also could not find the time for Florida DT Clint McMillan or LSU DE Rahim Allen, but they start so I threw them in there, so their avg. times at each position could be a little misleading. Also, I wanted to throw Larimore in there for us but I could not find his NFL DS profile, either. |
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10-24-2007, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatorubet
Well, those are just the stop watch times. When you sign a letter of intent with the SEC school you get a secret e-mail telling you how to access the on-the-field SEC speed, which you are sworn to keep secret. Every couple of OOC games we have to turn it off, so as not to raise suspicion.
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Well... that's a good weapon to have... the secret speed....
I don't have time to find this again... but.. in '02 (they call it "Florida Speed" when you're playing Miami ) I remember all the Canes talking about this and that...
Of course, Andre Johnson had won the Big East 100m Championship the preivious spring...
Of course that sounds impressive... and... I think this was mentioned in some presser... and... one of the Ohio State Players replied, "Oh, I didn't know that, whatever, I bet they don't have anyone as fast as Drew Carter... "
I don't remember the times... but... turns out Carter finished 6th or 7th in the Big Ten 100m....not too bad... of course, as it happens Johnson's winning time in the Big East wouldn't have qualified him for the Big 10 finals.
I'm sure it was a "down" year for Miami sprinters. 
At any rate... there was a trend for a long while to sacrifice size for speed in the SEC in years past... (and conversely speed for size in the Big Ten)... but... by "in years past" I mean back when we were running option, primarily... and... now its sort of evened out... as there are more spreads in the Big Ten than anything else... and.. .in top shelf programs... there is gonna be both big and fast.
I remember when Spielman was too small and slow to be a big ten LB.... nevermind an LB in the NFL... at 6'0" 230 ish... but... that's when the "proto LB" was more like Pepper Johnson at 6'3" 260ish... Spielman is at least an average College LB these days.
I only mention LB's because I always felt like the SEC was playing a bunch of Safeties at that position.... for a while... and... those 3 guys switched from guys who can engage teh Line of scrimmage to 3 guys who can play in space makes a lot fo fast guys out there.
What's Highsmith go? 6'0" 225 or so? I'd guess the Ohio State LB's are probably still a bit bigger accross the board than the Florida/LSU guys... but... not with the disparity there once was when the Big Ten Guys were built to stop power running games and take on OL's on every play... but... its still gonna take a long time to change that perception.
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10-24-2007, 04:00 PM
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