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Old 09-19-2007, 07:26 AM
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Fans - part of the show, or not? (Split from Pryor Thread)
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Some of you need to take a step back and realize that the fans don't make the program or the school great, regardless of whether you "are as loud as can be" or "put on a great display". Enjoy the show, but realize that you are not the show.
Had to be said again. Great stuff, LJB.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:17 AM
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Enjoy the show, but realize that you are not the show.
But you are the reason... the show is there or it exist.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:26 PM
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But you are the reason... the show is there or it exist.
Let's take this somewhere else, but this isn't true either. People play sports even when no one watches. And these players would tell you that they would play if no one was there.
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Some of you need to take a step back and realize that the fans don't make the program or the school great, regardless of whether you "are as loud as can be" or "put on a great display". Enjoy the show, but realize that you are not the show.
The first and hopefully last time I ever disagree with a bucks fan...
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I split this off as it seems it might end up evolving in to its own discussion.

Now, you can have at it.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:29 PM
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IMO gameday atmosphere and the passion of the fans (especially) has everything to do with how successful a program is in the long run. Afterall, if no one cared, the program wouldn't get the money it needs to be top notch.

What makes a school great are its students, faculty and alumni. Therefore, I am part of what makes Ohio State great. Say what you want about yourself.

As for being loud and all that crap to get a recruit, I agree that it doesn't make a difference.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:31 PM
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Some of you need to take a step back and realize that the fans don't make the program or the school great, regardless of whether you "are as loud as can be" or "put on a great display". Enjoy the show, but realize that you are not the show.



The first and hopefully last time I ever disagree with a bucks fan...
I think what LJB meant was not that our Fans aren't part of what makes Ohio State great...rather that fans being loud and 'off the hook' crazy at a football game isn't why The Ohio State University is great. It obviously goes well beyond that.

OSU vs. scUM is the best atmoshere in college sports imo, and our fans get as loud and energetic as one can imagine from my own experience, but that atmosphere and our fan's energy at that game, or when we travel and can be seen and heard @ an away Washington Game is not what makes tOSU great...a portion of it, sure, but not close to the top of the list.

I think that was the point. Any recruit who decides to attend, or not attend tOSU based on our fan's vocal prowess at any particular contest is 'missing the boat' imo.

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To be fair, for those who don't know how this started, LJB's point (as posted in my first post above) is that the fans do not have any influence over whether a recruit signs with a school, and not that fans, alum, etc. have NO value at all.
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To be fair, for those who don't know how this started, LJB's point (as posted in my first post above) is that the fans do not have any influence over whether a recruit signs with a school, and not that fans, alum, etc. have NO value at all.
As long as that was his point than I agree.

IMO, Fans and Alumni are the only things that make a school or program/team truly great.
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I interpreted it in the context of recruiting, and fans have no bearing on recruiting decisions, as far as GameDay atmosphere, noise level, cheer coordination, etc ...

If decibels were all that mattered to recruits, Michigan would be starting 22 walk-ons.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:36 PM
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To be fair, for those who don't know how this started, LJB's point (as posted in my first post above) is that the fans do not have any influence over whether a recruit signs with a school, and not that fans, alum, etc. have NO value at all.
A much more compact and easily understood way of stating what I was trying to say...clear...to the point, sure. But bo-ring!
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Evidently, game day atmosphere is important to some:

Gators land top recruit?

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"I went to the Rutgers-Louisville game last year, but I had never seen anything like this," said Hill of the weekend visit, when reached by phone on Tuesday. "The atmosphere at Florida, from the fans and alumni, showed how serious they take football and how much they love the game. I knew my dad would be hyped, but even my mom was jumping around doing the Gator chomp!"
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Evidently, game day atmosphere is important to some:

Gators land top recruit?

But how much of that sticks with a kid months after the particular visit? If a kid already loves that program, then I'm sure it can reinforce his decision. If a kid can't make up his mind between a couple schools, and one fan base is like the Cameron Crazies while the other is Golf-clap crazy, then it probably will be a factor in his decision.

But how many times have we heard after a kid leaves his official visit, him declare it the "best visit ever" and then the next school and the next? Not all, but certainly quite a few.

The emotions of a crazy atmosphere can easily wear off...as we've seen with several recruits tOSU have hosted.

Coaching Staff, Facilities, Tradition, The Program itself (of which Ohio State's are a part) stands up against any other school's well after the crowd at a football game chanting your name fades away.
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A much more compact and easily understood way of stating what I was trying to say...clear...to the point, sure. But bo-ring!
Actually, I was just about to post props to you, as I think you actually hit on what he was saying better than I.
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I'll put it this way....there are many things that go into a persons decision to go to a university. But if a recruit decides to come to OSU and doesn't believe that the fans, tradition, alumni are important, than I wouldn't want them to come to Ohio State. You win with people.
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