Rivalries and Conferences (Split from LSU v. OSU Offensive Personnel Thread)

[sluTiger]

Originally Posted by JohnLSU

sluTiger, you've got your facts all wrong.

The two biggest public university systems in our state are the Louisiana State University System and the University of Louisiana System (formerly "the Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities" -- in Louisiana).

The Louisiana State University System's flagship school is LSU, and its other schools include LSU-Eunice, LSU-Shreveport, LSU-Alexandria, and the University of New Orleans (formerly LSU-New Orleans).

The University of Louisiana System's flagship school is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette (formerly the University of Southwestern Louisiana), and its other schools include the University of Louisiana at Monroe (formerly Northeast Louisiana University), Northwestern State University, Southeastern Louisiana University, Louisiana Tech University, Grambling State University, McNeese State University, and Nicholls State University.

What really happened was that then-University of Southwestern Louisiana (USL) received permission in 1984 from their university system to change their school's name to the "The University of Louisiana" (not as you claimed, LSU-Lafeyette). Louisiana's state agency in charge of all public schools in Louisiana immediately filed suit to stop the name change, and the suit was successful.

Then, in 1995, the university system that USL belonged to ("the Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities" -- in Louisiana) successfully convinced our state legislature to change their name to the University of Louisiana System. When this happened, the University of Southwestern Louisiana (USL), as the flagship school of the University of Louisiana System, wanted to again change their name to the "The University of Louisiana." However, their aspirations were shot down, and they were only allowed to call themselves the University of Louisiana at Lafayette.

In my opinion, this is the way it should be:

The schools in the LSU university system should be called LSU, LSU-Eunice, LSU-Shreveport, LSU-Alexandria, and LSU-New Orleans (not the University of New Orleans).

The schools in the Univ. of Louisiana system should be called the Univ. of Louisiana (not UL-Lafayette), UL-Monroe, UL-Natchitoches (not Northwestern State University), UL-Hammond (not Southeastern Louisiana University), UL-Ruston (not Louisiana Tech University), UL-Grambling (not Grambling State University), UL-Lake Charles (not McNeese State University), and UL-Thibodaux (not Nicholls State University).

That would just make more logical sense.

Anyway, Merry Christmas!!!

!!!COONASS ALERT!!!

Oh my god you must be from New Iberia or Lafayette!!!

Basically the history is that USL was jealous of not being LSU and wanted to be called LSU. It is probably more accurate to say Lafayette is jealous of not being Baton Rouge. They did want to be part of the LSU system and use the Louisiana State University name. All USL wanted was to be seen as important as LSU from a name recognition standpoint. They could not get that because LSU has to much stroke, so they came up with University of Louisiana crapola. Every school mentioned above rejected the idea except the UL Monroe.

LOL, I love South Louisiana...

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by sluTiger

"The Game", "The Catch", "The Ohio State"... what gives with putting the in front of everything? LOL

You are about to experience "The Ban"...

[ashlandbuck]

If sluTiger wants to argue about the pressure of the OSU/UM game and compare any game in the nation to that one then he is simply ignorant as to the history of the game and to college football as whole.
This isn't just a Big Ten thing or a Midwest thing.....It has been named numerous times by a variety of sources as the greatest rivalry in ALL of sports. That includes Yankees/red Sox, Lakers/Celtics or any others.
To continue to argue against this simply shows a lack of understanding of the game and the history of college football.
I wouldn't waste any more of my time.

[JohnLSU]

Originally Posted by sluTiger

!!!COONASS ALERT!!!

Oh my god you must be from New Iberia or Lafayette!!!

Basically the history is that USL was jealous of not being LSU and wanted to be called LSU. It is probably more accurate to say Lafayette is jealous of not being Baton Rouge. They did want to be part of the LSU system and use the Louisiana State University name. All USL wanted was to be seen as important as LSU from a name recognition standpoint. They could not get that because LSU has to much stroke, so they came up with University of Louisiana crapola. Every school mentioned above rejected the idea except the UL Monroe. LOL, I love South Louisiana...

Look, sluTiger, everything I wrote above is true. I actually wasted about an hour researching all that to make sure it was true. Take what I wrote to your college professors at Southeastern Louisiana University (SLU), and they will tell you that it is true.

And, no, I am not from Cajun territory, although I do have a lot of pride for the contributions that Cajuns made to the culture that makes our state so great. In addition, I believe that Cajun territory produces more beautiful and sweetheart Louisiana girls than any other region of our state (although there are certainly many beautiful and sweetheart girls from every part of Louisiana).

As for myself, my family is not originally from Louisiana. I was only born and raised down here because my father's company made him work down here. No offense, I love Louisiana and there are many, many things that make our state one of the best places on Earth, but our public educational system is one of the worst in the United States. Fortunately, my parents were able to send me to elite private schools so that I actually got an above-average education.

And the university I received my bachelor's degree from was LSU. Sure, LSU is the best public college in our state, but its not up there with the great public schools of states that are much larger than Louisiana, such as Ohio State and many others.

Anyway, the point is that everything I wrote is true. Like I said, take what I wrote to your college professors at Southeastern Louisiana University (SLU), and they will confirm it.

Again, Merry Christmas!!!

[ashlandbuck]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

You are about to experience "The Ban"...

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by HailToMichigan

Put another way: Suppose LSU makes it to the SEC championship game but loses. Would LSU fans really be able to say, "Well, at least we beat Auburn," and that would make up for it?

I guarantee that, hypothetically, if there were a Big Ten championship game, and let's say for argument's sake that Michigan lost to Wisconsin in it. We could live with that if we had beaten OSU.

It has been exactly one day since I read on a Florida board a poster's comment that if we beat Georgia, he could live with 10 other losses every year.

I might not go that far, but if we could beat the poodles the next twenty in a row, I'd be willing to give up twenty years of winning records. Seriously.

[JohnLSU]

Originally Posted by Gatorubet

It has been exactly one day since I read on a Florida board a poster's comment that if we beat Georgia, he could live with 10 other losses every year.

I might not go that far, but if we could beat the poodles the next twenty in a row, I'd be willing to give up twenty years of winning records. Seriously.

What about the Florida vs. Florida State rivalry? Many, many people in Florida think that is the only rivalry that matters. What's great about football down here is that there are so many rivalries that we can't just settle on "one" to call "The Game." Granted, the Ohio State vs. Michigan rivalry is WAY bigger than anything down here in the South (I mean just look at this BP website, it is practically an "I hate Michigan" website), but that's just because the Big Ten has only had two traditional powerhouses, while the South has had many.