Rivalries and Conferences (Split from LSU v. OSU Offensive Personnel Thread)

[sluTiger]

Originally Posted by sflbuck

You have no idea how big of a mistake you have made with this statement.

Also Michigan does view us the same way. Check the HBO special that ran this year if its is still available. In fact any fan of another team should be forced to watch it before they can even comment on "The Game".

I love Kevin Faulk's comment about ND's stadium. "It is a wonderful looking place, but its not Tiger Stadium." GEAUX TIGERS...

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by VprHis

Illibuck, its status as a secondary rivalry, and the potential for resurgence in hostilities: Discuss.

Proposition:

Any college football series in which the game concludes with an exchange of a fossilized amphibian, a tarnished mug, barrel or blunted axe is not really a rivalry.

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Proposition:

Any college football series in which the game concludes with an exchange of a fossilized amphibian, a tarnished mug, barrel or blunted axe is not really a rivalry.

And even so, the Illibuck fails at even that proposition because it's exchanged DURING the f'ing game and given to the team who won it last year.

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by JohnLSU

But does Michigan have the same obsession with Ohio State that Ohio State has for Michigan?

You bet. And while you didn't intend to disrespect, comparing PSU to Ohio State is going to offend some people on here. PSU joined the Big 10 in 1993 and haven't done a whole lot since, winning the conference twice, one of those years was shared with us in 2005.

[Lockup]

Originally Posted by JohnLSU

My point is that I never realized there was a team in college football who had a fan base where the vast majority of fans were completely obsessed with just one single other team. Is Michigan like that as well? Are there any other programs that have fans like that? It really is quite a fascinating concept.

Only a scUM fan could answer how much they hate us although I suspect they hate us pretty good. Or you could ask Mike Hart

Unlike OSU though scUM has other rivals to point some attention too. they have ND, which personally I think is a lower type of rival because everybody hates ND and wants to beat them. They also have an in-state rival with scUM jr (Michigan St). OSU really has no other rival, which in my mind is the way it should be. We have no in-state rival and the closest thing we have to another rival is PSU but really don't hate them. This is why OSU fans can focus more hatred on a single team.

We really do hate scUM though. You really should try and watch the HBO special it really does the rivalry a lot of justice. With all the hatred of the fan bases though we really do respect each other for what each has accomplished. How could you not when you have two programs with such a rich history of winning. Put two of the largest fan bases at it too and you have a very nice and unique rivarly.

Since the game is always the last game of the regular season it makes the rivalry worse too. scUM and OSU are really the two big boys (not PSU) in the Big Ten. SO the Big Ten title and NC hopes lye on that game many times and each team has spoiled the others season many times.

Plus it is really the only rivalry I am aware of where you can be a very good coach (see Cooper) and end up getting kicked to the curb soley based on an inabilty to beat the other team.

It is also one of the few rivalries pretty much everybdoy knows about. Some of the ones mentioned here I did not even know they were rivals. You would be hard pressed to find somebody that did not know OSU and scUM were rivals though.

[muffler dragon]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Proposition:

Any college football series in which the game concludes with an exchange of a fossilized amphibian, a tarnished mug, barrel or blunted axe is not really a rivalry.

I'll second. Move to a vote. All in favor say, "Ay".

[JohnLSU]

Originally Posted by sflbuck

You have no idea how big of a mistake you have made with this statement.

Well, I'd put the "Big House" a small step above "The House That Rockne Built" After all, ND's stadium is just a small scale replica of Michigan's stadium (which is another reason I love the ND vs. Michigan rivalry). As a side note, I found out recently that Nebraska's stadium was built to look like Ohio State's stadium.

But ND stadium is pretty amazing. Some of my favorite things about ND's stadium:

-It didn't have lights until recent years, and whenever they were forced to have a night game for TV purposes, they had to bring it portable light trucks to light the field.

-Touchdown Jesus. I'll never forget the "Snow Bowl" between ND and Penn State when ND won the game on the unbelievable play in the final seconds of the game. It made me believe Touchdown Jesus was real.

-The traditional markings on the field. ND's field doesn't have a logo in the middle of the field like other teams, and ND's field doesn't have painted end zones or the team's name written there. Instead, ND's field is just a very plain, simple field. In the end zone, they only have diagonal white lines. It reminds you of the tradition of all the great players in ND's history that have played on that same field (Joe Montana, Joe Theismann, Steve Beuerlein, Tim Brown, Jerome Bettis, "Rocket" Ismail, the Four Horsemen, "The Gipper," etc).