Miles vs. Tressel

[GeauxTigers99]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

Mother of God...

LMAO........If I could give you more greenies, I would.

[TS10HTW]

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers99

Here are a few stats on Miles' career at LSU that I posted a while back. Being that they are relevant to this discussion, I'll post them again. Bear in mind that I'm not arguing the fact that Miles is a better coach, just posting some stats in favor of Miles. Also, I'm not quite sure which game I posted these after, so they are not completely accurate. I know it was before the Arkansas & Tennessee games.



32-5 = The Hat's Overall Record at LSU

19-4 = The Hat's SEC regular season record

19-0 = The hat's record against unranked teams

13-5 = The Hat's record against Top 25 teams

11-4 = The Hat's record against Top 15 teams

6-3 = The Hat's record against Top 10 teams

6-1 = The Hat's record at home against Top 20 teams

2-0 = The Hat's Bowl Record

19-1 = The Hat's Home record

11-0 = The Hat's record in November

13-1 = The Hat's record against the SEC West

11-3 = The Hat's road record

2 SEC West Titles

Won the SEC West outright for the first time in LSU history

Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 10 win seasons

Only LSU coach to ever post back-to-back 11 win seasons

Only the 2nd LSU coach to ever post back-to-back Top 5 finishes, (Paul Dietzel was the other)

Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn and Florida in the same season, (He has done it twice)

Has come from behind victories over:


#15 Arizona State
#4 Alabama
#15 Auburn
#11 Florida
#8 Tennessee
#9 Florida
#17 Auburn
#17 Alabama


Ranked in the Top 15 in 45 of 45 polls

Ranked in the Top 10 in 39 of 45 polls

Ranked in the Top 5 in 26 of 45 polls

Ranked #1 in 4 of 44 polls


Has beaten 5 National Championship coaches:

1. Larry Coker
2. Phillip Fulmer
3. Steve Spurrier
4. Urban Meyer, (twice)
5. Nick Saban

Good stats but I do believe his bowl record was posted earlier as 3-2 not 2-0. But the:he beat 5 coaches w/ NCG wins is a bit stale.

Unless you are strictly talking about at LSU only (if so I apologize) however you are using particular stats to benefit you're argument that's not very objective...look at his record as an NCAA head coach period and compare the pros and cons accordingly.

I think les is a very good head coach and his bold playcalling late in games seems to be an advantage vs most of his opponents he's tried it on so far.

The question is how many NC games/SEC title games/BCS games/big games has he won? and how many has he lost?

Marty Schottenheimer (sp?) was a very good coach too but couldn't win those big games but he was still regarded as a very good coach. I'm not going to compare him to any number of coaches because it won't matter.
Maybe the difference with les will be he is willing to risk losing the game to win it when others would have taken the high road. He still has many big games to be coached and I don't see him retiring in the next 2-3 years. Just be careful comparing these two guys and hoping that a majority of buckeye fans will say there isn't a distinct advantage for Tressell.

Tressell is the face of the Ohio State University and is having great success here and at his previous head coaching job at YSU. I would give him an advantage over Miles if the two were to swap teams and play for the NC too. Would you?

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers99

Here are a few stats on Miles' career at LSU that I posted a while back. Being that they are relevant to this discussion, I'll post them again. Bear in mind that I'm not arguing the fact that Miles is a better coach, just posting some stats in favor of Miles. Also, I'm not quite sure which game I posted these after, so they are not completely accurate. I know it was before the Arkansas & Tennessee games.



32-5 = The Hat's Overall Record at LSU

19-4 = The Hat's SEC regular season record

19-0 = The hat's record against unranked teams

13-5 = The Hat's record against Top 25 teams

11-4 = The Hat's record against Top 15 teams

6-3 = The Hat's record against Top 10 teams

6-1 = The Hat's record at home against Top 20 teams

2-0 = The Hat's Bowl Record

19-1 = The Hat's Home record

11-0 = The Hat's record in November

13-1 = The Hat's record against the SEC West

11-3 = The Hat's road record

2 SEC West Titles

Won the SEC West outright for the first time in LSU history

Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 10 win seasons

Only LSU coach to ever post back-to-back 11 win seasons

Only the 2nd LSU coach to ever post back-to-back Top 5 finishes, (Paul Dietzel was the other)

Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn and Florida in the same season, (He has done it twice)

Has come from behind victories over:


#15 Arizona State
#4 Alabama
#15 Auburn
#11 Florida
#8 Tennessee
#9 Florida
#17 Auburn
#17 Alabama


Ranked in the Top 15 in 45 of 45 polls

Ranked in the Top 10 in 39 of 45 polls

Ranked in the Top 5 in 26 of 45 polls

Ranked #1 in 4 of 44 polls


Has beaten 5 National Championship coaches:

1. Larry Coker
2. Phillip Fulmer
3. Steve Spurrier
4. Urban Meyer, (twice)
5. Nick Saban

How nice.

Tressel's record at Ohio State? 73-15 over 7 years.
Big Ten record in 7 years? 45-11 -
Four OOC losses, UCLA 01, South Carolina 01, #2 Texas 05, #2 Florida 06.
Big Ten record over last 3? 21-3
Against Teams rated #2 or higher: 3-2 (If I remember Texas being #2 in 05 correctly)
Against Chief Rival: 6-1
Against unbeatable favroites: 1-0
Record against "The Hat:" 1-0
Ranked #1 in ... something like 18 to 20 of the last 26 polls.
Final rankings include:
2002 - 1
2003 - 4
2005 - 4
2006 - 2
2007 - ?
Number of odd coaching decisions: 2
Number of Heisman winners: 1
Number of NFL picks: A [censored] load
2 consecutive Big Ten Championships, outright. 4 overall.
BCS Appearances: 5 in 7 years...

I could go on.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Buckeyeskickbuttocks

How nice.

Tressel's record at Ohio State? 73-15 over 7 years.
Big Ten record in 7 years? 45-11 -
Four OOC losses, UCLA 01, South Carolina 01, #2 Texas 05, #2 Florida 06.
Big Ten record over last 3? 21-3
Against Teams rated #2 or higher: 3-2 (If I remember Texas being #2 in 05 correctly)
Against Chief Rival: 6-1
Against unbeatable favroites: 1-0
Record against "The Hat:" 1-0
Ranked #1 in ... something like 18 to 20 of the last 26 polls.
Final rankings include:
2002 - 1
2003 - 4
2005 - 4
2006 - 2
2007 - ?
Number of odd coaching decisions: 2
Number of Heisman winners: 1
Number of NFL picks: A [censored] load
2 consecutive Big Ten Championships, outright. 4 overall.
BCS Appearances: 5 in 7 years...

I could go on.

Plus a 28-game regular-season winning streak (all-time Ohio State record) and a 20-game conference winning streak (all-time Big Ten record).

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by Buckeyeskickbuttocks

Against Teams rated #2 or higher: 3-2 (If I remember Texas being #2 in 05 correctly)

IIRC the Horns were #3 going into the game.

[BrutuStrength]

Originally Posted by sluTiger

Tressel has the relentless stinging jab that runs like a jackhammer and is very light on his feet, but Miles takes him down in the 10th round with a viscous right cross....

Sounds like a sticky situation.