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I know, I just went with the leading career tacklers from both schools and didn't worry about position. I was going to put a little side note in there pointing out that only two players in Penn State's history have made more tackles than a safety at Ohio State, but by the time I got done putting it all together I forgot to. I did find that pretty humorous when I ran across it though.
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I also took notice that we may have only had 2 LB's taken in the second round but I think they both did all right didn't they? And none of this takes into account either someone like Vrabel who was a DE at tOSU but converted to a LB in the NFL. No disrespect to PSU, they have a great tradition but as far as current excellence at the position they just can't hold up. But I guess we can let them keep their title for now, we already have Defensive Back U locked up anyway.
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This confirms something I've been saying all along, many Big Ten schools have an amazing defense, not just Penn State. The defense of Big Ten schools is responsible for a lot of exciting, but low scoring games, such as two of Michigan's games this year (against Penn State and against Ohio State).
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Just to add to my analysis a little bit (since the Dorian Bell commitment has sparked the OSU vs. PSU debate it seems) I decided to look at All-American linebackers both teams have had and came up with this:
All-American LB's 2007: James Laurinaitis, Dan Connor 2006: James Laurinaitis, Paul Posluszny 2005: A.J. Hawk, Paul Posluszny 2004: A.J. Hawk 2002: Matt Wilhelm 1999: Na'il Diggs, Brandon Short, LaVar Arrington 1998: LaVar Arrington 1997: Andy Katzenmoyer 1992: Steve Tovar 1991: Steve Tovar 1989: Andre Collins 1987: Chris Spielman 1986: Chris Spielman, Shane Conlan 1985: Thomas Johnson, Shane Conlan 1982: Marcus Marek 1978: Tom Cousineau 1977: Tom Cousineau 1976: Kurt Allerman 1975: Greg Buttle 1973: Randy Gradishar, Ed O'Neil 1972: Randy Gradishar, John Skorupan 1971: Charlie Zapiec 1970: Jack Ham 1969: Dennis Onkotz 1968: Dennis Onkotz 1965: Ike Kelley 1964: Ike Kelley OSU: 19 All-American Linebackers PSU: 17 All-American Linebackers Interesting that in 1999 Ohio State and Penn State fielded the entire All-American linebacker corps. Also interesting that Ohio State has had more All-American linebackers than "Linebacker U".
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tOSU: 12 PSU: 13 Last edited by krazeyk; 04-21-2008 at 12:44 PM. |
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![]() PSU had that great run of having an AA LB from 1968 to 1976 (save 1974)...that's about the time the press first coined the term "Linebacker U", and it fit PSU. Since that run, however, Ohio State has had 15 AAs at LB vice only nine for PSU...that's a 5/3 ratio over a 30+ year span. |
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Both teams official sites (with '07 added in from wikipedia).
Ohio State Penn State On that note, does anyone know if the NCAA keeps track of who they officially recognize as All-Americans, I could not find anything on the NCAA site.
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I don't think the NCAA has any "official" All American status. The NCAA really doesn't give out individual awards at all, to my knowledge. All the awards are given by third parties. The "traditional" All American squad is decided by the AP, IIRC. I think ESPN, SI, SN, etc all have their own AA squads.
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