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Old 07-01-2008, 12:36 PM
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1) Cowherd never said what happens to USC in the media IF they get slaughtered. (I'm sure the carte blanche will be extended for time immemorial).
If OSU wins the excuse will be that USC "hasn't gelled yet" and "lacks experience due to (X) players going in the draft last year. Basically, there will be a laundry list of protective excuses for USC should they lose.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:44 PM
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If OSU wins the excuse will be that USC "hasn't gelled yet" and "lacks experience due to (X) players going in the draft last year. Basically, there will be a laundry list of protective excuses for USC should they lose.
You forgot the old standby - Pete Carroll was having a bad hair day
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:51 PM
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If OSU wins the excuse will be that USC "hasn't gelled yet" and "lacks experience due to (X) players going in the draft last year. Basically, there will be a laundry list of protective excuses for USC should they lose.
I agree with the point you're making. On the other hand, we need to accept that those who will be reciting that "laundry list" will have a point.

The truth is, we are catching USC at a good time. Early in the year, they will be as inexperienced in key areas as they've been in a few years. We can call it "excuse making" if we want. To a certain extent, it is "excuse making" to say such things.

But there is also a certain legitimacy to putting this win, if we get it, into perspective. Yes, it will be huge. Yes, it will be over a very good team. It will be USC's 2nd OOC loss in what, 5 years? We don't need to make it any bigger by downplaying the opponent's lack of experience. I understand that you aren't doing that; but others commenting on this subject have done exactly that.
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I agree with the point you're making. On the other hand, we need to accept that those who will be reciting that "laundry list" will have a point.

The truth is, we are catching USC at a good time. Early in the year, they will be as inexperienced in key areas as they've been in a few years. We can call it "excuse making" if we want. To a certain extent, it is "excuse making" to say such things.

But there is also a certain legitimacy to putting this win, if we get it, into perspective. Yes, it will be huge. Yes, it will be over a very good team. It will be USC's 2nd OOC loss in what, 5 years? We don't need to make it any bigger by downplaying the opponent's lack of experience. I understand that you aren't doing that; but others commenting on this subject have done exactly that.
It's just ironic that the same people giving them the benefit of the doubt haven't let anything slide with us. No one cared to mention we had to replace 9 starters on defense and 2 1st round draft picks on offense in '06 after the Florida loss and everyone seemed to suddenly forget we were replacing just about every key player on offense and half our defense last year, after the LSU game. It seems we're the only team in the country that isn't allowed to show any weaknesses. Part of that is flattering because it means people have such high expectations for us but it's also a curse because when we don't meet those expectations we get unfairly punished. And unfortunately, the media has way too much influence on the game.
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It's just ironic that the same people giving them the benefit of the doubt haven't let anything slide with us. No one cared to mention we had to replace 9 starters on defense and 2 1st round draft picks on offense in '06 after the Florida loss and everyone seemed to suddenly forget we were replacing just about every key player on offense and half our defense last year, after the LSU game. It seems we're the only team in the country that isn't allowed to show any weaknesses. Part of that is flattering because it means people have such high expectations for us but it's also a curse because when we don't meet those expectations we get unfairly punished. And unfortunately, the media has way too much influence on the game.
Agreed on all points.

In fact, it was in thinking about our own inexperienced team going up against a more seasoned (and stronger) team last January that I composed my post.

While others may apply a different standard to us than to USC, let's be careful that we don't do the same thing but in the other direction. Let's acknowledge that our opponent has more holes to fill than we do. It's OK. We can be fair, even when "they" are not. We're Ohio State. Being held to a higher standard is part of the territory, regardless if it is a blessing or a curse.
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