2008 tOSU QB discussion (official thread)

[jwinslow]

Late in the game, we seemed to go back to the intermediate crossing routes, where were were able to get some separation, vs, trying to outrun their DB's to the endzone? just saying...

Late as in the last drive? That was their second team. I haven't had the heart to rewatch it, so I'm not sure if this is the drive to which you're referring.

[Oneshot]

I don't really recall the second team going in that much at all - even when the game was decided.

But the previous poster was right. It was all deep balls. Not even a post; just streaks.

And I would be fine with dives. The problem was that they weren't dives, they were slow developing counters for which the LSU D-line had the quicks to blow up.

It's a weird deal - Beanie's 66 yard TD run was off of one of said counters. But the counter look really stops working after a point - see the 3rd and goal when we were stuffed just because of these slow developing running plays. IMO we do not run enough dives. I hate to say it, but honestly if we ran Beanie more like LSU runs Hester, I think Beanie and the Buckeyes would greatly benefit.

EDIT: To tie this back in with the QB Discussion - I think TB is #1

[MUBuck]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

I believe he missed a week of practice. However, I think the suspension hurt his spot on the depth chart, which affect his reps.

That's true, but I would guess he got the same amount of film study and mental preparation as the other QBs. Add in the fact that he was the #2 for the bowl practices and will be #2 for the spring practices, I think he will get enough reps to prepare to play this year. I don't think there is anyway that he starts, but I don't think it's far fetched to imagine him going every third or fourth series.

[jazzman]

One thing is for sure.....Boeckman is gonna start next year. However, I can see a very similar situation brewing that may be similar to that to the whole Zwick/ Troy Smith saga. We travel to USC, and that game could be make or break for Boeckman. If he doesn't do too well, the Buckeye fans are gonna be up in arms....and Henton will likely replace him.

I don't see Pryor starting in his freshman year. He's likely to be red-shirted. Even if he does come to OSU, Bauserman is gonna be the next QB in line after Henton.

[Bleed S & G]

Originally Posted by Sportsbuck28

Honestly, a lot of you need to read the quote in Grad's sig.

"There's a whole lot of people that don't really have much understanding of what it takes to be good at this game but love to have opinions."

-- Jim Tressel

Sportsbuck - if you're looking for people without opinions, a buckeye message board may not be for you.

Grads post about the 'knee jerk' reaction is a great post, and come to think of it.. maybe I'm being to harsh saying I want Henton.. I look at Boeckman and I see 3 picks 0 TDs against Illinois, I see 1 pick in scUM and then the passing game got shut down. I see the LSU game...

But on the other hand, Boeckman was solid all year.. just inconsistent.. I'll reserve my judgement till spring ball and the opening games of 2008.. Tressel obviously knows more about the QB situation I do.. just frustrating to watch.

[bukIpower]

I think the same thing. Get the 240 pound running back running down hill once in a while! I love our counter plays from time to time because beanie's combonation of patients, speed, and power are hard to stop when he does find room to run. However, when teams do figure it out I'd like to see us make more of an effort to just give beanie the ball and have him slam the ball in there (right up the middle and off tackle). Also as I've stated earlier the passing routes have got to change also. Like stated earlier in the thread we do too many deep routes. Now from time to time yeah I think we should launce one deep, but we can't make that route our bread and butter.

[alpo]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

...Also as I've stated earlier the passing routes have got to change also. Like stated earlier in the thread we do too many deep routes. Now from time to time yeah I think we should launce one deep, but we can't make that route our bread and butter.

Agree. Our short, intermediate passing game seemed almost non-existent at times. Yes, when our deep ball was on, it was deadly, but it wasn't on pretty much any time after the Penn State game. And yet our stronger opponents, (Michigan and Fla. last year,) & (Ill., Wisky & LSU) this year, threw underneath very effectively against us all night long.
Short tight-end routes by us were tough to come by. No one gets open? Were tight ends always in protection? It just didn't make sense that we couldn't pick up first downs unless Beannie was running through a grand canyon, galloping off in mis-direction or was stiffing somebody.

[BrutusBobcat]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

I believe he missed a week of practice. However, I think the suspension hurt his spot on the depth chart, which affect his reps.

You're right -- I forgot the exact circumstances of the suspension. Certainly it didn't help, but it's not as bad as I presumed.