2008 tOSU QB discussion (official thread)

[BB73]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

The only time that INTs are like punts are when they are not only on long balls but also on third down. Here are his INTs over the last two regular season games (the NCAA page I'm using doesn't have the play-by-play stats for the LSU game):

1. Illinois. Sideline pass intercepted at the ILL 45 from the OSU 42 (13 yards down field) middle of 1st qtr.
2. Illinois. Pass intercepted in the Illinois end zone, from the Illinois 9 yard line on 3rd and goal, OSU's first drive of 3rd qtr.
3. Illinois. Deep pass intercepted by at the ILL 24 from the OSU 36 (40 yards down field) on 1st and 10.
4. Michigan. Pass intercepted at Michigan 33, just over 20 yards down field (play started at OSU 44) on 2nd and 12. Michigan also got more yards (33) on that INT return than they did (32) on their six punt returns.

Only one of those INTs was truly a long ball INT (third Illinois INT) and that was on 1st down, so no way can that be "like a punt".

At first I thought that some of the picks from earlier in the year may have been 'like a punt'. I think that impression came from the Purdue game, where 3 picks were all on deep balls and not returned. But none of those occurred on 3rd down. The only 3rd down long ball that was picked was in the LSU game, and it wasn't like a punt because of significant return yardage.

Boeckman's 8 interceptions from earlier in the year:

Akron: 3rd and 8 from the Akron 21, picked off at the 7, no return. Cost a FG attempt.

Akron: 2nd and 6 from tOSU's 43, picked off at the Akron 16 no return. Like a quick-kick on 2nd down.

NW'ern: 1st and 10 at NW'ern 48 after a Chekwa pick. Picked at the 2-yard line, no return. Quick strike after change of possession gone bad.

Purd: 1st and 10 at tOSU's 37. Picked at the Purdue 28, no return.

Purd: 1st and 10 at Purd 38. Picked at the 2 yard-line, no return.

Purd: 2nd and 7 at Purd 46. Picked at the 2 yard-line, no return.

MSU: 3rd and 10 at midfield. Picked at the MSU 46, returned for a TD.

PSU: 1st and 20 at tOSU 45 after holding. Connor picked it at the PSU 39 and returned it 2 yards.

And here are the LSU picks, neither of which were like a punt:

3rd and 10 at tOSU's 31, late in the first half. Deep ball to Small was underthrown, picked at LSU's 42, but returned 34 yards to the tOSU 24.

3rd and 15 at tOSU's 40. Picked at the LSU 43 and returned 4 yards.

[IronBuckI]

A) An interception is "like" a punt
B) The punt is the most important play in the game
C) An interception is "like" the most important play in the game.

[generaladm]

Eh, little bit of this, little bit of that. My point was that most of his picks happen in opponent's territory and give the D a chance to negate it. Of course, INTs are never good. I knew someone would pounce on that. Still, my greater point is TB wasn't that bad last year. If the bad games had come in the beginning or middle of the season, people would be raving about him. Ending on a sour note always taints the memory, but he will build on last year, and it's not as big a leap as everyone makes it out to be. Hey, at least I gave you guys an excuse to look up a bunch of stats. You know you love it!

[TS10HTW]

Originally Posted by generaladm

Still, my greater point is TB wasn't that bad last year. If the bad games had come in the beginning or middle of the season, people would be raving about him. Ending on a sour note always taints the memory, but he will build on last year, and it's not as big a leap as everyone makes it out to be.

8 INT's isn't that bad...however when is an INT a good thing? I would say never a good thing. Also, after reading BB73 stats: the purdue game is awful. getting picked on deep balls at the two yard line TWICE and one at the 28, that sucks. It says TB didn't learn to 1)either look off or 2)simply not force it.


Purd: 1st and 10 at tOSU's 37. Picked at the Purdue 28, no return.

Purd: 1st and 10 at Purd 38. Picked at the 2 yard-line, no return.

Purd: 2nd and 7 at Purd 46. Picked at the 2 yard-line, no return.

I like the experienced guy in this situation but I'm still at like and definitely not in love, that's all.

[generaladm]

Originally Posted by TS10HTW

8 INT's isn't that bad...however when is an INT a good thing? I would say never a good thing. Also, after reading BB73 stats: the purdue game is awful. getting picked on deep balls at the two yard line TWICE and one at the 28, that sucks. It says TB didn't learn to 1)either look off or 2)simply not force it.

Boeckman actually had 14 INTs on the season. Not good. But you have to believe that will go down this year. He had his ups and downs as a first year starter. The thing I don't get is why people seem to think that a QB with absolutley no college starting experience would do a better job. With the defection of Henton, TB has got even more pressure on him. Pryor's presumed involvement gives some options, but it's still Boeckman's ship. I, for one, think we are in good hands.

[Taosman]

In 2009 we will be short on numbers at QB. Does someone like Orhien Johnson get reps at QB? The old "pair and a spare" thing.

[generaladm]

Originally Posted by Taosman

In 2009 we will be short on numbers at QB. Does someone like Orhien Johnson get reps at QB? The old "pair and a spare" thing.

I would think they'll have to get som