2008 tOSU QB discussion (official thread)

[GrizzlyBuck]

Originally Posted by Buckin' A

On the bright side....some said we'd have nothing to talk about until spring...

Always the glass half full type huh Buckin'a

[Sportsbuck28]

Originally Posted by Taosman

Should we bring in 2 QBs this year? (for a 3 total) (though I have liked Schwartz at QB from the beginning)
If rumors are correct we could be looking at just 2 QBs left on the roster.

Uh, FWIW, Florida won a NC with only 2 QB's left on the roster..

Who, in a similarity, was a senior quarterback, and the other a highly touted freshman.

[ScarletStorms]

I seem to have an entirely different look at this. I thought I saw the same QB all year + or - according to the level of competition, weather conditions, and the play of the players surrounding him. My summation is that he is a role player. Not a role player as in Krenzel. When we needed a play from Krenzel he could deliver with his intelligence and his leadership.

Boeckman has suitable pocket presence, arm strength, accuracy, decision making. But you can never count on him to make a play. The problem is that we can't count on anyone on our offense to make a play. Our receivers are great at running their routs and they have good hands. But they are not going to burn a good team with speed and Boeckman is not going to be able to intuitively deliver a great pass. So we are an adequate passing unit with almost no chance to hit a big one against good competition. Well that doesn't open things up for our grind it out back. We are missing the game breaking element which will force defenders to play honestly.

Now make whatever argument you will but our receivers will be the same next year and I am not at all sold on Small. So we are going to have to change something because we can out muscle, outsmart, and outplay good teams, but when it comes to USC and the NC we are going to need a little bit more. I thought that if we had played Henton we would have had a better chance. And I don't expect Boeckman to progress much from year 1 to year 2 because you don't have too much more potential to tap when you have been playing as long as he has.

Ill also say that I really doubt Pryor, is he does commit to us, will start at any point in the year. He is a pretty raw talent. Maybe he could line up elsewhere but above all else this is an Ohio State team. We will play smart and efficiently before we ever throw as much talent as we can onto the field and hope. He needs at least a year in the system before he will be ready in my opinion. Henton has been showing promise and progressing well. Let's not get caught up in the hype surrounding the #1 recruit.

I think we will be at our best with Henton.

[Taosman]

People keep denigrating Boeckman and I just don't see it.
They are so enthralled with Pryor that they just want to put Todd on the bench.
The idea that Boeckman is not head and shoulders the best option at QB on this team is ridiculous and a slam on Todd. There is no logic operating in that thought. Boeckman is a proven commodity and does make plays.
He's made plenty this year. His first as a starter. And his experience in big games is invaluable and not equaled by the raw talent of others.

And our WRs are play makers and have made plenty in they're first year as starters!
There's nothing wrong with Small that some experience and coaching can't improve.

And we have play makers at running back!

And play makers at TE! (They could be used better.)

And most of all we have a great coach!

[IronBuckI]

Originally Posted by Sportsbuck28

Uh, FWIW, Florida won a NC with only 2 QB's left on the roster..

Who, in a similarity, was a senior quarterback, and the other a highly touted freshman.

Yeah, well, I don't want us to have rely on a last second coup in the polls in order for us to make the title game, and hope that the other team fails to show up for the game. Just so we can repeat Florida's success.

[IYE2]

There's nothing wrong with Small that some experience and coaching can't improve.

I dont wanna wonder off topic but, I disagree completely.
He cant get off the line. Against LSU that was blatant. He has talent though, no doubt.

Back to QB...I agree w/ everything Scarletstorm said.

[Sportsbuck28]

One thing that people are really missing is the fact that this was his first meaningful action since 2003.. you are going to have some games that you don't play well in purely because of the rust factor of not playing for over 3 years or more.

[IronBuckI]

Originally Posted by Sportsbuck28

One thing that people are really missing is the fact that this was his first meaningful action since 2003.. you are going to have some games that you don't play well in purely because of the rust factor of not playing for over 3 years or more.

That may have been a valid argument at the beginning of the season, but the lack of improvement cannot be attributed to no meaningful action since 2003 by the end of the season. First six games or so that's a valid argument, but not after that.

On the other hand. Troy was not all-world in his first full season as a starter in any of the games against good competion either. He even appeared to regress in the Penn State game, but he turned out all right . I am critical of Todd's performance toward the end of the season, but I am also very excited to see what he can do as a second year starter.