2008 tOSU Defense discussion (official thread) - Page 29

Buckrock · #**421** (**permalink**) 10-07-2008, 05:54 PM

Bear Bryant used to say that the perfect DL was and i quote...."Agile, Mobile and hostile" let's get some of those dudes.

GrizzlyBuck · #**422** (**permalink**) 10-07-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckrock

Bear Bryant used to say that the perfect DL was and i quote...."Agile, Mobile and hostile" let's get some of those dudes, and turn them loose to wreak havok on the poor, undermanned opponents

FIFY

crazybuckfan40 · #**423** (**permalink**) 10-08-2008, 04:14 PM

I will throw my thoughts out there...

We have talent up front...Some just not big enough, some better at defending the run, than the pass, and some best against the pass...

Wilson is really the only guy at his position that I feel comfortable whether a team is about to run or pass...

Then we have make shift...Gibson (pass only), Abdallah(run only), Worthington(pass, close on the run), Heyward (at end run, inside pass)

We don't have the balance, because either our big guys are too big or our smaller guys aren't big enough...

We are getting gashed up the middle...I wouldn't mind pinching the DT towards the center and then hoping to pinch the C from getting to the backers...

Not sure if Ohio state fans understand the whole bull rush thing...It is how ever defensive coach teaches d-line...You get your hands on the guy in front of you and push so you have leverage then you use the rip, swim, spin, etc...The thing is the quicker you goto a move like that, you make it easier for the o-lineman to get into your body, and take you out of a play, and also open up a lane...

Wilson, Gibson do a good job of trying to get off blocks when rushing the passer...But there were a couple times when they were given the inside path they took it and then the booting QB got outside of them...

It just seemed to me that we are getting out of the defense what we want out the defense...Not us in terms of but coaches...Obviously not the big runs, but the 3-4 yard runs...Because we are putting 7 against 7 in the box, or against a spread team we are putting 6 against 6...We aren't outnumbering teams, against Wisky we were running lots of 4-3 over, which look like a 5-2...The thing is the Wisky line is good enough against just about anyone to open up holes against that...They were hitting us right up the 0-1 hole when we spread out...Homan and JL got there but 3-5 yards down the field, because there wasn't the push of the D-Line to where it caused the RB to make a cut...Or cause a pile and take out 2 olineman...

We were stunting, but we weren't getting into the gaps, we were just letting the oline push us out of the play...

But I said last paragraph we are getting out to the defense what we want...We can't get pressure on the QB because it seems the first read is always open...It is a 3 step drop and that guy is open...If that guy isn't open then the QB needs a check down, and then there should be time to get pressure...It is hard to get pressure with 4 if the QB is only having to make one read...We should be able to jump the route quick as teams aren't running deep routes on us...

We are disguising coverages, switching man to zone, but we don't seem to use our safeties for much other than just make sure you don't give up the big play...

Why not play a man cover 1, and bring a safety up for man on the TE, where they were killing us on the boot pass where our middle LB seemed to be the closest guy to coverage...They are hitting passes under the cover 2 before the CB can get off his route and cover the flat...

Teams have designed against us to hurt us, we adjusted in the second half, but that is when they gashed us with the run, when our guys seemed dead, and weren't getting the push they were getting early...

osugrad21 · #**424** (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 08:34 AM

Advocate

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OSU's defensive improvements drawn within the line

Shifts up front filter success to Buckeyes' back seven

By JON SPENCER ? For The Advocate ? October 14, 2008

COLUMBUS -- In analyzing the play of Ohio State's defensive linemen, co-captain Malcolm Jenkins took the same straightforward approach that led to his tone-setting blocked punt in Saturday's 16-3 victory against Purdue.
"Basically, they had been pretty average," the senior cornerback said after the game. "The biggest thing we take out of the win is how hard our defensive line played. They stepped it up."
For the most part, the pressure up front that the Buckeyes put on Purdue quarterback Curtis Painter had been missing since Vernon Gholston took his Mr. Olympia body and pass-rushing skills to the NFL this spring.
Even with two sacks Saturday, the 6-1 Buckeyes have just 11 on the season. Only Wisconsin, with nine, has fewer in the Big Ten.
Moving Thaddeus Gibson from linebacker to end has helped. He's caused two fumbles in the past two games and rattled Wisconsin quarterback Allan Evridge into a victory-sealing interception by Jenkins.
Shifting ends Cameron Heyward and Rob Rose inside to boost performance from the tackle position also has given the team a spark, though some of the optimism was muted by a knee injury end Lawrence Wilson suffered against Purdue.
Wilson, whose fumble recovery led to a field goal Saturday, was expected to step in and replace Gholston as a sack master. But he never has really rounded into form after missing virtually all of 2007 with a broken leg.
Cont..

osugrad21 · #**425** (**permalink**) 10-20-2008, 05:36 AM

BN$--Defense Gets Into Scoring Act Twice In Win At MSU

Players comment on the scoop and scores and also Ringer's comments.

GrizzlyBuck · #**426** (**permalink**) 10-20-2008, 06:44 AM

Hopefully one of the Nittany [censored]s will put his foot in his mouth this week and give the D another reason to shut down PU this Saturday.

I'm sure this D will be ready to play their best game of the year to make up for the less than stellar USCum game. The D-line will need to apply pressure, yet stay disciplined and not give running lanes to Clark. I like our D-backs against the Nits recievers, and expect to see Hines roaming and hitting from the Nickel.

This defense is starting to look like the one I envisioned when the season started, and it is coinciding with the D-line picking up their play. I'm not sure why the D-line play has improved, coaching (JT light a fire under their [censored]'s) more experience for Thad, Cam, RR, Dex and Nate or returned health from Denlinger, but the resurgence could not have come at a better time.