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Old 01-20-2008, 01:19 AM
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Just a question here, but how does a defense that finished ranked No. 1 in the country in scoring and total defense and loses only 2 starters have to improve to be labeled "sick, filthy, etc"?
because the last 4 good/great offenses we faced have ripped up us. 2 straight up the gut, and 2 with a combination of attacking the perimeter of our defense and our zone coverage.

There is plenty that can be improved upon........last years defense was no doubt a good defense, but the LSU game certainly exposed some serious weaknesses.
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because the last 4 good/great offenses we faced have ripped up us. 2 straight up the gut, and 2 with a combination of attacking the perimeter of our defense and our zone coverage.

There is plenty that can be improved upon........last years defense was no doubt a good defense, but the LSU game certainly exposed some serious weaknesses.
Bingo. We annihilate poor/so-so offenses, do well against good ones, but get our asses handed to us by great ones. Granted, the LSU game was compounded by turnovers and dipshit mistakes, but we just couldn't stop them for dinking and dunking us to death...
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:20 AM
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So what exactly is the criteria for "great offenses" besides them performing well against Ohio State?
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We have lost a total of 3 games in 2 years! And those losses were to
2 National Champions and Illinois (on a blown call/ ref gambling).
And all 3 losses were team losses(not just the defense failure).
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:03 PM
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We have lost a total of 3 games in 2 years! And those losses were to
2 National Champions and Illinois (on a blown call/ ref gambling).
And all 3 losses were team losses(not just the defense failure).
While I agree with the premise Taosman that they were team losses, the 2002 silver bullets won games for tOSU even with offensive/coaching mistakes and an very innefective offense (at times) We beat scUM last year giving up a ton of points, Florida played them like a fiddle (although at the very least the defensive coaches were duplicitous in the crime) They could not get the Illini offense off the field for the last 8-9 minutes to give the O another shot, and LSU put up a ton of points on them (not from field goals after the D stopped them in the red-zone either)

The 2007 defense was a good one, but I'm with Mili/Mesa or whoever he is today, in that it did not qualify as sick/filthy/dominating IMHO
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Yea we lost that game to Illinois because of a bad call in the first 5 minutes of the game
I'm not one to argue over past games.. but seriously that was a huge call. If it is made correctly, we get the ball on the 20 yard line after just driving the length of the field on Illinois and punching it into the endzone.. so, instead of it being 7-7, it could've been 14-0.

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Just a question here, but how does a defense that finished ranked No. 1 in the country in scoring and total defense and loses only 2 starters have to improve to be labeled "sick, filthy, etc"?

Pop in the LSU or Illinois tape from 07 or the scUM and UF games from 06 and you tell me.

I could care less what stats they racked up on the sisters of the poor. Good teams have worked the defense two years running. Improvement is needed.
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