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Old 01-22-2008, 08:52 PM
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More man, less zone. You have the talent, but you need the courage to let them do it.

Sure, you will get burned a time or two, but the freedom and flexibility it affords the d-coordinator to attack the offense with extra personnel is priceless.
Agreed. I'm tired of 'bend but don't break' and want to see the silver bullets.
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:58 PM
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Maybe we should wait until we actually see the '08 secondary before jumping to conclusions. Last year, Jenkins was a junior, Russell a sophomore coming off a serious injury, Coleman a 1st year starter and sophomore, and Washington a 1st year starter and sophomore. Plus, you have guys like Chekwa, Clifford, O'Neal, and Scott who saw time last year too. Isn't the most improvement usually made from year 1 to year 2? Now, I don't want to give you the idea I expect them to be as good as the '98 secondary because that's asking a lot but I don't think there will be as wide of a gap between them as you seem to suggest.

EDIT- Our secondary will be so deep I even forgot to mention Amos who was pushing for some serious time before getting injured. Pentello and Evege are the wildcards.
And if Clifford gets out of Tressel's doghouse.. He is a serious athlete. One of the best on the team IMO.
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Maybe we should wait until we actually see the '08 secondary before jumping to conclusions. Last year, Jenkins was a junior, Russell a sophomore coming off a serious injury, Coleman a 1st year starter and sophomore, and Washington a 1st year starter and sophomore. Plus, you have guys like Chekwa, Clifford, O'Neal, and Scott who saw time last year too. Isn't the most improvement usually made from year 1 to year 2? Now, I don't want to give you the idea I expect them to be as good as the '98 secondary because that's asking a lot but I don't think there will be as wide of a gap between them as you seem to suggest.

EDIT- Our secondary will be so deep I even forgot to mention Amos who was pushing for some serious time before getting injured. Pentello and Evege are the wildcards.
Beat me to it. Not saying that we will have 3 future 1st round CBs, but you know Jenkins will be one barring injury (knock on wood), Washington has the potential to be a first day pick for sure, and who knows how much improvement Clifford will make this off-season.

Jax, I'm not saying MJ is one of the greatest corners at OSU by any means, but I think he deserves a little more credit than a nice solid player. Antonio Smith was a nice solid player.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:24 PM
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I don't understand how people underate Michael so much. Dude is an All American, is a top 10-15 pick in '09. Plus, he's only 20 years old! He's going to be one of those players that won't get full recognition until his backups are fighting for his open spot.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:34 PM
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I don't understand how people underate Michael so much. Dude is an All American, is a top 10-15 pick in '09. Plus, he's only 20 years old! He's going to be one of those players that won't get full recognition until his backups are fighting for his open spot.
Uh, it's Malcolm.

Michael was the receiver that from our 02 title run..
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I'm just not sure why he(Jenkins) was played at safety so much?
Did the coaches just not have enough faith in Coleman?
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Uh, it's Malcolm.

Michael was the receiver that from our 02 title run..
Meant Malcolm. Sorry, message board policeman.
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I'm just not sure why he(Jenkins) was played at safety so much?
Did the coaches just not have enough faith in Coleman?

That Nickel and zone look we've become so attached to recently. Put me in the group who wants to see 11 Silver bullets out there attacking every play. I prefer the attack style defenses. Take your shots on a play by play basis. Once in a while the other team will guess right and get you for a big play but more often than not, with the athletes that we have on defense, we'll get the turnovers and big plays by dictating to the offense. Mix in the zone on occasion and when the down and distance calls for it, but make the opponent fear the defense when they play Ohio State.
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EDIT- Our secondary will be so deep I even forgot to mention Amos who was pushing for some serious time before getting injured. Pentello and Evege are the wildcards.
And if they are playing five yards off receivers in zone coverage you will get dinked and dunked to death by a mobile qb with a quick release.