QB Terrelle Pryor (official thread)

[LordJeffBuck]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeThunder

If it weren't for Ryan Mallett he would be a lock for Ann Arbor. I just don't know how this will work out. On one hand he T.P. is a much better fit for the system up north but Mallett is a 5 star with a huge upside and a years experience. Which ever one wins the job leaves the other out in the cold.

Mallett to Columbus?

Originally Posted by BuckeyeThunder

Krenzel has a winning record in the NFL... 3-2 if I remember correctly.

Originally Posted by BuckeyeThunder

Mod or no Mod... That was unnecessary. My point was, both players are highly touted recruits that will compete for the same playing time. My intention was to imply that the one who wins the starting job will force the eventual transfer of the other. I think this could effect Pryor's decision as Mallett will not be a pushover to unseat. Tebow saw some time during Leaks last year, Pryor would have a similiar experience next year at Ohio State. In Michigan it will be different. There won't be a light at the end of the tunnel as one of them will be a career backup barring injury, etc.

Okay, I hope that you n00bs get it now....

At BP, we don't like panic attacks, ledge jumpers, and sky is falling types, and we don't like our news threads deteriorating into a bunch of senseless, irrelevant BS. Keep it clean, keep it reasonable, and keep it on point, or find somewhere else to post.

Congrats on the hat trick, Thunder. Who's next...?

[Brutus1]

How about if we all play the "Stay off the Pryor thread, unless you have real info" game for the next 6 weeks?

[MililaniBuckeye]

For those worrying about Pryor wanting a system "built around" him or "featuring" him, IIRC he had mentioned the possibility of him redshirting. Now, it may be me, but kids who desire the offense be built around them don't usually consider redshirting. OSU is the best fit for him football-wise, basketball-wise, and staff-wise, and he knows it.

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I think it's quite important to note something....

We're recruitniks... the reason this thread is so "hot" and we're all so worried about what RR to Mich does to the recruitment of TP is a function of the fact that we've all choosen to follow this as closely as we can. that is to say, we want to know NOW what Pryor's gonna do. I don't know why we do this, but we do.

Contrast that with.....

Jim Tressel. You think you're worried about what Pryor might do? Imagine what Tressel is doing. I suppose I should qualify that.... I'll tell you what I doubt JT is doing... sitting around worrying and refusing to act. That is, we can only worry.. Tressel can act. This circus can't possibly be a surprise to JT and the staff. This circus is US... because we're recruitniks. I've watched Ohio State football pretty closely and I am supremely confident that Tressel is doing everything he can, and within his particular nature as a person, to see to it that TP makes the best choice for him (which would hopefully be Ohio State.... but keep in mind also, while we LOVE Ohio State, we should also recognize that Ohio State is not all things to all people. What I want for TP is for him to make the correct choice for him, not for me. Yes, I want him to come play football in Columbus. I want it badly. But, it's not up to me)

Anyway... Right now this is a hot topic because we've got a huge recruit and a new situation. We've also got a young man making an important decision about the next 4 years or so of his life. He's not struck me as the type to go off half cocked and make an impulse decision. That hasn't changed with RR to Mich. Speculating that it has changed that is insulting to everyone involved.

Michigan may end up with TP. I personally doubt it. But, if they do.. it's not going to be because RR went from WVU to Mich. It's going to be because TP decided Mich was the right school for him. Again, in as much as I've followed this for a while, it is my belief that he will not decide that about Michigan. But, he's doing himself the service of looking in to it. As well he should.

[Bleed S & G]

Originally Posted by LordJeffBuck

Congrats on the hat trick, Thunder. Who's next...?

[BB73]

For those wishing to have at Hailyes for his recent posts. you may continue at the Reference Locker thread entitled "Hail NO!"

[Emperor Brutus]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

How about if we all play the "Stay off the Pryor thread, unless you have real info" game for the next 6 weeks?

I was actually pretty ok with this thread being locked, I knew when something was posted in here it was legitimate information and not filled with starry eyed 12 year-old daydreams.

I follow recruiting not because I expect Ohio State to land all the best players, if that happened college football wouldn't be any fun. I follow recruiting because I want to know these kids' stories so I know who is playing for my university. That's the great thing about college ball, they don't go where they are drafted or because someone pays them to but because their heart is in it. That's why I went to Ohio State, because that was where my heart was.

I don't need to sift through 40 posts from ledge jumpers and chicken littles to get to the real info, I just want to know what our team is going to look like in coming years. Guess it's back to the recruiting planet Terrelle thread.

By the way Buckeye Planet recruiting team I and many others greatly appreciate what you do, so thank you for your hard work and thank you for doing it with integrity, not for your egos.

[wadc45]

Rivals $

12/19

By Farrell...update and photos from the state title game.

Good point, Emperor Brutus...for anyone that only wants news on Terrelle, feel free this to visit this thread:

'08 PA QB Terrelle Pryor - Recruiting Forums

That's where I will be spending my Pryor-time from now on...because this thread has literally become unbearable.

[tibor75]

Originally Posted by wadc45

Here is my response to all the Pryor and Rodriguez stuff:

I guess TP's aspirations end with playing QB in college, rather than developing the skills needed to be sucessful at the highest level? Name the last QB RR developed into an NFL-caliber player...now name the last one JT developed (Troy Smith). Heck, he even got Krenzel a chance in the NFL...something most people thought was impossible. The fact is the staff has plenty of time to continue to assure Terrelle that OSU will develop their offensive scheme to maximize his potential. Add to that the continuing effort of Posey, Thomas, Brewster, etc. in recruiting him to OSU and I am not concerned at this point.

I am fully prepared for the circus...but in the end I still will be surprised to see him go anywhere other than OSU.

Yes, but scUM's track record is very impressive. heck, Todd Collins got a start this week. That idiot john Navarre started a game with the CArdinals a year or so ago. Greisball is still in the league.

RR notwithstanding, there is no comparison between OSU and scUM in developing QBs for the NFL.

[wadc45]

Originally Posted by tibor75

Yes, but scUM's track record is very impressive. heck, Todd Collins got a start this week. That idiot john Navarre started a game with the CArdinals a year or so ago. Greisball is still in the league.

RR notwithstanding, there is no comparison between OSU and scUM in developing QBs for the NFL.

I think it's the coaches that develop the QBs...not the schools. In that respect I will take the current tandem of JT and Joe Daniels over UM's current tandem of RR and Scott Loeffler any day of the week.

Krenzel, Zwick/Smith, Boeckman vs. Navarre, Henne

Which group came closer to realizing their max potential? I rest my case...

[BayBuck]

Originally Posted by Emperor Brutus

I knew when something was posted in here it was ligament information

You mean like news about an injury?

[Oh8ch]

RR notwithstanding, there is no comparison between OSU and scUM in developing QBs for the NFL.

But this is the salient point of the entire RR hire. UM never developed these QBs. The coaches within the program did. And because these coaches shared the same "coaching tree" and same philosophies, they got generally the same results. And because that was the perception lots of good receivers and good HS QBs went to UM to take advantage of it.

But RR is a different nut from a different tree with a different philosophy. This point is enormous. He has done wonders with Pat White as a QB because IIRC nobody else wanted to even recruit him at that position. But here he is an all start Big East QB.

But he reads zone blocks, not zone secondaries. His progression is pretty much I am covered, Slaton is covered, I better dump this thing off. His passing numbers are remarkable in their sparcity for a team that generates this much offense. WVU scored 66 points against UConn and White threw the ball 13 times for 107 yards. And this, but his own admission, is the only O RR knows.

It is a mistake for this kid to go to UM if he wants to be an NFL QB unless he thinks the Patriots are going to move to a spread option.

[NAVYBUCKEYEMAN]

One of "our" guys went to the school today to do a presentation. TP just peaked in during lunch threw up a quick wave!!! I told the guys in the office I want you to set up another visit so that I can go there in a "BRUTUS BUCKEYE" mascot uniform. Don't know if this will make the board moderator mad don't really mean to. Just want to lighten up the situation around here. It's just that being a die hard fan and only 5 miles away from TP makes it all more crazy for myself and going to almost all of his home games.

[OWUBuckeye51]

Originally Posted by Emperor Brutus

I was actually pretty ok with this thread being locked, I knew when something was posted in here it was ligament information and not filled with starry eyed 12 year-old daydreams.

I follow recruiting not because I expect Ohio State to land all the best players, if that happened college football wouldn't be any fun. I follow recruiting because I want to know these kids' stories so I know who is playing for my university. That's the great thing about college ball, they don't go where they are drafted or because someone pays them to but because their heart is in it. That's why I went to Ohio State, because that was where my heart was.

I don't need to sift through 40 posts from ledge jumpers and chicken littles to get to the real info, I just want to know what our team is going to look like in coming years. Guess it's back to the recruiting planet Terrelle thread.

By the way Buckeye Planet recruiting team I and many others greatly appreciate what you do, so thank you for your hard work and thank you for doing it with integrity, not for your egos.

Great post dude - couldn't agree more with your sentiments.

If TP comes to OSU...I wonder if, when TP is ready, Tress would incorporate a portion of the zone read?

If TP comes and competing for a starting job in let's say 2009...I would think he would run the a version of the "spread" attack, but given the current stable of underclassmen backs and receivers, I think he would have to incorporate them more into the O than what WVU does with White.

Maybe a 55-45 run/pass balance? I guess my ultimate question is what form of the spread takes the most advantage of TP?

[6-1.SUCKIT.]

I think if he went to Michigan he'd be more Vince Young than Pat White.

Why does Rodriguez run the ball so much at WVU? Simple. He doesn't have very good wide receivers on his team and Pat White is not a good thrower. I cannot emphasize those two points enough.

Michigan will never be short on receiving talent. Off the top of my head, over the last 15 years they've had; Desmond Howard, Amani Toomer, Tai Streets, Derrick Alexander, David Terrell, Marquise Walker, Jason Avant, Braylon Edwards, and Steve Breaston all get drafted and spend time in the NFL. Mario Manningham and Adrian Arrington are pretty much sure bets to join those guys as NFL players pretty soon. I might be forgetting some as well.

I don't buy for a second that the guy is going to be pigeon holed into being Pat White part deux. West Virginia just doesn't get very much receiving talent and Pat White just cannot throw the football.