QB Terrelle Pryor (official thread)

[OregonBuckeye]

Originally Posted by souL

Do you think his first game will be USC? Do you think Tress waits until this game so that Petey doesn't have a look at TP in a Buckeye uniform until then?

No. He won't want him getting his first collegiate experience at USC. He'll get him some reps against cupcakes YSU and Ohio so he's more comfortable running plays at game speed.

[buckeyes_rock]

Originally Posted by souL

Do you think his first game will be USC? Do you think Tress waits until this game so that Petey doesn't have a look at TP in a Buckeye uniform until then?

That's crazy talk!

Seriously though...no way he doesn't play til USC. He'll get the opportunity to break into the game easy vs YSU. Plus that's just not JT's style.

EDIT:
Yeah, what Oregon said. Sorry. At least great minds think alike.

[schneider.360]

what do you guys think about pryor not getting any playing time until after the usc game? you know, just to not disrupt the system we've had in place since last year. it seems to me that learning a whole new system with pryor might not be worth it for probably no more than a couple plays...

although i gotta admit it would be awesome to see him get his first against usc, take the ball out of the pocket, fake a run and throw a bomb to robo.

[Oneshot]

I can't wait to hear what the first practices are like.

Everyone knows how much importance JT puts on practice. If you can't get it done on the practice field, you won't see the real field.

IIRC, that's why Smith never got his shot until Zwick hurt his shoulder. Zwick was simply better on the practice field.

[Best Buckeye]

It wouldn't be unheard of for a Freshman QB to start that early but Jt isn't going to do that "just for the hell of it"

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by OmahaBeef

I would be stunned if the Buckeye QB of the future was put in at running back. Probably no other position on the field takes as much punishment as running back. Also, we are far from thin at RB. With Wells, Saine, Wells and Herron there's no need to risk injury to Pryor.

But Smith took a lot of punishment too when he was quarterbacking here...so did VY at Texas...and Vick at VaTech. Isn't coaching about maximizing the effectiveness of a player within the confines of the team strategy?

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

But Smith took a lot of punishment too when he was quarterbacking here...so did VY at Texas...and Vick at VaTech. Isn't coaching about maximizing the effectiveness of a player within the confines of the team strategy?

I'm having a hard time really seeing what you're arguing. Are you saying that you believe that TP is actually going to see significant action at RB?? Because, if so, I have a very hard time believing that JT is going to put the probable future of the program in lined up in the backfild and taking handoffs. Way too much risk there for a 6'6 freshman when you have a Heisman candidate there and a handful of more than capable backups. Along with Beanie, Mo and Zoom, Boom Herron has been drawing raves as well.

I absolutely believe that there will be a handfull of plays drawn up to get the ball in TP's hands, but I am quite sure the staff won't be lining him up as a RB.

[OregonBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

Isn't coaching about maximizing the effectiveness of a player within the confines of the team strategy?

You think the team strategy is lining up a 6'6" QB at RB?

[BuckeyeMafia]

In both of the first two games we'll have pulled starters, and if nothing else, TP will get to see the ball a few times vs. Ohio and YSU.

I really doubt he goes in at all vs USC.

If he does, I don't think it will only be for 1 play.

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by OregonBuckeye

You think the team strategy is lining up a 6'6" QB at RB?

That's not team strategy - that's Fantasy Football!!!

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

I'm having a hard time really seeing what you're arguing. Are you saying that you believe that TP is actually going to see significant action at RB?? Because, if so, I have a very hard time believing that JT is going to put the probable future of the program in lined up in the backfild and taking handoffs. Way too much risk there for a 6'6 freshman when you have a Heisman candidate there and a handful of more than capable backups. Along with Beanie, Mo and Zoom, Boom Herron has been drawing raves as well.

I absolutely believe that there will be a handfull of plays drawn up to get the ball in TP's hands, but I am quite sure the staff won't be lining him up as a RB.

My original point was that TP is going to get in on a handful of running plays, which is going to affect Saine and MoWell's plays more so than Henton/Boeckman. And you disagreed with that.

The stuff about lining Pryor at RB is simply put into my mouth. Tressel is not going to risk getting his players hurt? LOL why did he run Smith? How many TDs did Smith have in his career? Why did Mack Brown run Vince Young? This is a game of football, and physical contacts are allowed. If Pryor starts to get 7, 8 yards a pop and maybe break a couple early on, he will gradually steal more and more snaps from Saine and MoWells.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMafia

In both of the first two games we'll have pulled starters, and if nothing else, TP will get to see the ball a few times vs. Ohio and YSU.

I really doubt he goes in at all vs USC.

If he does, I don't think it will only be for 1 play.

Pryor will see action against YSU and Ohio...I'll guess 5-10 plays each game, either as QB or in the Shot Ginn position. If the plays we have designed for him work well against YSU and Ohio, you can bet that JT won't waste that talent at USC by keeping it on the bench. Pryor's playing against YSU and Ohio will also force their DC to plan for him, which takes time away from planning for Boeckman/Henton...the more options a DC has to plan for, the harder it is to be prepared for all.

[NFBuck]

This is what you said:

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

For this upcoming season Pryor will basically be used as our #2 RB. I think he's going to take more snaps from Mo Wells and Saine than Henton. Henton/Boeckman will be under center and they'll have Pryor and C. Wells lined up in the backfield somewhere.

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

My original point was that TP is going to get in on a handful of running plays, which is going to affect Saine and MoWell's plays more so than Henton/Boeckman. And you disagreed with that.

Nope. I agree with Pryor getting a handful of plays. A handful of running plays does not equal "basically our #2 runningback".

The stuff about lining Pryor at RB is simply put into my mouth.

Nope. I bolded it above for you. Lining up in the backfield with Beanie, your own words.

Tressel is not going to risk getting his players hurt? LOL why did he run Smith? How many TDs did Smith have in his career? Why did Mack Brown run Vince Young? This is a game of football, and physical contacts are allowed.

Designed runs for a QB are much different than taking a handoff or a pitch. Designed runs typically catch a defense by surprise whereas when you get the ball from the QB, they're keying on you. How many big hits did you see Troy or VY take?

If Pryor starts to get 7, 8 yards a pop and maybe break a couple early on, he will gradually steal more and more snaps from Saine and MoWells.

I agree, but not lining up in the backfield with somebody else under center. Just don't see it personally. Now, if you're talking the occasional play from the "Shot Ginn" position mentioned above by Mili, I could by it. Just not on a regular basis.

[Tresselbeliever]

Pryor will be called a lot on running plays. Whether he's under center or lined up somewhere else in the backfield, who knows. The reason I don't think it's going to be under center is that Henton/Boeckman are talented QBs that have a lot more experience. Therefore, to utilize Pryor without taking the ball away from our proven QB Boeckman, and our up-and-coming QB Henton, Tressel will design ways to get Pryor the ball by designing running formations for him.

If you don't agree with this view, you either think that
a). Tressel will be foolish enough to give a lot of QB snaps to a true-freshman...
b). That Tressel will be foolish enough not to give Pryor the ball...
or
c). Pryor will move to other positions, such as on defense.

If you don't think Pryor has that much talent and Tressel doesn't need to find ways for him to get touches, then this is an entirely pointless debate. However, if you think Pryor does have the talent, then I don't understand why it's so inconceivable to you that Tressel will give Pryor a lot of non-QB plays.

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

Designed runs for a QB are much different than taking a handoff or a pitch. Designed runs typically catch a defense by surprise whereas when you get the ball from the QB, they're keying on you. How many big hits did you see Troy or VY take?

Really. Is that why Krenzel kept getting pounded the two years he was QBing here?