QB Terrelle Pryor (official thread)

[BengalsAndBucks]

Originally Posted by MUBuck

It's also very effective as a PA option. The boot leg side TE chips on the end and then releases for a 5-7 yard out. QB can throw it to the TE if the DE stays home or run it and the TE turns into a lead blocker for the safety. Almost unstoppable if defense is in man.

Its also very effective if the defense hasn't seen it before so they can't key on what formation we run it out of...

[daddyphatsacs]

I'm going to bump this Pryor thread because I have this sneaking suspicion that he's going to have a big game this week. I get this feeling that Tressel held out T.P. just to keep USC guessing this week. His only plays were a couple of straight ahead runs for the most part. His brilliance may show this week, for the first time in a national spotlight. Vince Young ate up USC with his legs, don't think that film was never watched by the coaching staff over the summer months. Big game this week, will Pryor be given a shot?

[BuckeyeMac]

I'd love to see TP run a few playes that Troy ran when he was here...the little option pass type play where the QB and RB act like its an option then the QB steps back and it's a pass. It worked lights out when Troy was here

[bukIpower]

To me with how we were in a dog fight with Ohio last week and didn't see Pryor I'm not sure we will see Pryor all that much. I'd like to see Terrelle with the first team offense just to give the guy a chance out there. If we send him out with the 2nd unit against USC um yeah that'd be not that cool.

[schwab]

100% certainly not calling out BuckeyeMac.

When talking with other fans in my area (some fans, some fanatics, some would be going in reverse if they were going any slower).

But the references to Troy did this, Troy did that... Troy won the Heisman. Troy took us to the NC game in the desert. Troy had us #1 from day 1 in 2006.

But we also went 8-4 in 2004. With Troy Smith, as a sophomore. I know the Zwick thing happened.

But the next Troy will be a sophomore in 2009.

We need to be cool with Terrelle as this thing progresses. Throw him into the fire to soon, and..... well hell, nevermind, it's not like we're Michigan

[buckeye4ever21]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

To me with how we were in a dog fight with Ohio last week and didn't see Pryor I'm not sure we will see Pryor all that much. I'd like to see Terrelle with the first team offense just to give the guy a chance out there. If we send him out with the 2nd unit against USC um yeah that'd be not that cool.

I think we will see a lot of Pryor because of the inability for Boeckman to perform in big games. Tressel likes to keep packages up his sleeve and Terrelle is the biggest suprise we have. The play calling for Pryor has been extrememly basic and I for one can't stand it. We haven't even scratched the surface of Pryor's abilities because we haven't given him the personel or the plays with which he can best opperate out of. I for one think Terrelle has to see a lot of the field in this game but we have to adjust and open the playbook to him. I say we give Terrelle some chances on early drives, opening up the playbook for him and then how he does on those drives determines how we use him throughout the rest of the game. With the way USC has recruited every year and the stacked talent they have at all positions, our best chances are a healthy dose of Beanie to really shorten the game. Next Saturday at 11:30 we will have a lot more answers.

[schwab]

Originally Posted by buckeye4ever21

With the way USC has recruited every year and the stacked talent they have at all positions

We aren't chopped liver.

I know it's hard to believe, but Ohio State gets kids that USC wants. We don't get their scraps. We lose head to head battles on kids at times, and so do they. The USC recruiting myth makes me want to puke. Sure they get their fair share, but they don't tell us who is left when they are done.

A fair argument can be made (heavily, no?) that our coaching staff has done more with less (if you buy into the star ratings). If USC is continually getting better players at every position, then why do they have 1 (ONE) crystal football, same as OSU, and why is there no huge difference in draft picks?

The NFL would agree.

[buckeye4ever21]

I'm not saying that we don't recruit great players but USC seemingly can pull anyone they want out of the entire state of California year in and year out (majority of the Calif. great players). California produces more college football players than Ohio. I just wish the likes of UCLA and Cal would pull more talent away from them. We really don't have that many recruiting battles with them. Fred Davis, Dwayne Jarrett and Corey Adams are the ony 3 i can think of off the top of my head. I'm just saying when you're pulling the majority of top HS players out of probably the best producing state over the past few years. You have to admit that their RB depth cannot be matched by any other team in the nation. I'm just basically stating that our best chances of taking this game are to put it in Beanie's hands and take our shaky QB play somewhat out of the game.

[generaladm]

Originally Posted by buckeye4ever21

I think we will see a lot of Pryor because of the inability for Boeckman to perform in big games.

Big games like @ Penn State, which many people expected us to lose? Big games like @ Washington, where he had two huge TD passes? Don't fall for the common perception that the only big games we play are the ones we lose. Boeckman was a big part of the reason we overachieved last season.

[3074326]

We'd better see a fair amount of Pryor, in response to the question regarding his PT. Look at USC's recent history against running QBs. Teams have had success in big games. Every team in the world will have more problems with a QB taking some snaps who is freakin' huge and has some speed. Look at OU last week.. I really hope, for our team's sake, that Pryor gets some snaps to keep USC off balance. I don't see why it would hurt our team at all.

Originally Posted by buckeye4ever21

I'm not saying that we don't recruit great players but USC seemingly can pull anyone they want out of the entire state of California year in and year out (majority of the Calif. great players). California produces more college football players than Ohio. I just wish the likes of UCLA and Cal would pull more talent away from them. We really don't have that many recruiting battles with them. Fred Davis, Dwayne Jarrett and Corey Adams are the ony 3 i can think of off the top of my head. I'm just saying when you're pulling the majority of top HS players out of probably the best producing state over the past few years. You have to admit that their RB depth cannot be matched by any other team in the nation. I'm just basically stating that our best chances of taking this game are to put it in Beanie's hands and take our shaky QB play somewhat out of the game.

Well, similar to Ohio, the best school in the state gets the best kids from the state.. We get kids from everywhere and I wouldn't put our talent a notch below their talent. It's even as far as I'm concerned.

[JXC]

Originally Posted by 3074326

We'd better see a fair amount of Pryor, in response to the question regarding his PT. Look at USC's recent history against running QBs. Teams have had success in big games. Every team in the world will have more problems with a QB taking some snaps who is freakin' huge and has some speed. Look at OU last week.. I really hope, for our team's sake, that Pryor gets some snaps to keep USC off balance. I don't see why it would hurt our team at all.



Well, similar to Ohio, the best school in the state gets the best kids from the state.. We get kids from everywhere and I wouldn't put our talent a notch below their talent. It's even as far as I'm concerned.

If TP can just get us in field goal range once...then that'll be enough. USC can't move the ball on our defense. Our defense will bring it's A game...and unfortunately for USC...that will be too much.

[EidoloN]

Originally Posted by generaladm

Big games like @ Penn State, which many people expected us to lose? Big games like @ Washington, where he had two huge TD passes? Don't fall for the common perception that the only big games we play are the ones we lose. Boeckman was a big part of the reason we overachieved last season.

General, usually reading your posts I always tend to agree with you, except for this one. Sure, TB looked pretty good against UW and Penn State, those were during the 1st half of the season. The second half, he played poorly against Illinois, poorly against scUM (although we got a win, plus the weather but Henne played in the same weather and didn't bobble the ball from a snap) and played poorly against LSU. To open the season, he played decent against YSU and alright vs Ohio, we need Todd's A game vs USC, that's where I think TP can be a difference maker in the game. Using TP in the "Pistol" formation, or even the shotgun and running a straight QB draw up the middle is a guarantee 3-4 yard gain. Possibly even a huge gain if read properly and a hole is there. That definately opens up the playbook for our recievers to get some seperation and TB to throw while calm. TP, I think absolutely can be the biggest difference in this game and the season.

[buckeye4ever21]

Originally Posted by generaladm

Big games like @ Penn State, which many people expected us to lose? Big games like @ Washington, where he had two huge TD passes? Don't fall for the common perception that the only big games we play are the ones we lose. Boeckman was a big part of the reason we overachieved last season.

What about the 3 you forgot to mention Illinois, Michigan and LSU. And USC should not be confused with Penn State and Washington.

[fourteenandoh]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMac

I'd love to see TP run a few playes that Troy ran when he was here...the little option pass type play where the QB and RB act like its an option then the QB steps back and it's a pass. It worked lights out when Troy was here

love that play! that's the one they used to throw to santanio all the time right? i think they scored twice on it in one game against MSU.

[schwab]

We should be able to run any kind of fake that has ever been ran. If it's a question of personnel, we have a player for any stereotype that you can come up with! TP has played 2 college games, and I would already rate his ball fake up there with the best of them. BTN camera guys included.