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10-05-2008, 09:17 PM
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if I don't take us down the field, bench me
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I don't think the little emocon really lets me know anything except that you think my argument was stupid, an opinion which you are certainly entitled to, but really doesn't bring any meaning to the discussion.
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It represented a groan for not that again, but fine, let's go down that road.
Have you watched the play again at all, or do we need a link to it?
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The last time we played at Randall Stadium in '03, Krenzel only completed 14 passes out of 26 attempts. I don't think Pryor did any worse than the senior QB.
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Krenzel's passing over the course of a game was rarely good. He managed the game, and was very clutch, but that's a low barometer.
OSU did not need a great quarterback performance in that outing, they needed a tough leader, and Terrelle delivered.
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13 isn't a lot. But the plan right out of gun was to run the football. So when analyzing numbers, it's better to put them in context rather than looking at it from a vacuum.
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I'll be interested to see 'by the numbers' from the ozone. There were many times where Terrelle did not throw the ball and settled for a short run instead. Many of those 15 carries for 20 yds came on passing downs.
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10-05-2008, 09:22 PM
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I'll be interested to see 'by the numbers' from the ozone. There were many times where Terrelle did not throw the ball and settled for a short run instead. Many of those 15 carries for 20 yds came on passing downs.
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Agreed, but I'd love to see Terrelle's numbers once he learns it's ok to throw it away and not take a huge loss trying to make a big play. I appreciate his refusual to give up on a play but sometimes it is for the best to just toss it.
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10-05-2008, 09:23 PM
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if I don't take us down the field, bench me
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Agreed, but I'd love to see Terrelle's numbers once he learns it's ok to throw it away and not take a huge loss trying to make a big play. I appreciate his refusual to give up on a play but sometimes it is for the best to just toss it.
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agreed, some of those short runs did not make it back to the LOS.
What a wonderful problem to have, erring on this side of the spectrum 
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10-05-2008, 09:25 PM
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Agreed, but I'd love to see Terrelle's numbers once he learns it's ok to throw it away and not take a huge loss trying to make a big play. I appreciate his refusual to give up on a play but sometimes it is for the best to just toss it.
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...and when there is a Flex TE like Travis Beckum available to make the playaction game even nastier.
Jake Stoneburner will have a huge impact next season.
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10-05-2008, 09:29 PM
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The WRers didn't have a great game last night and provide help. Robo was all but invisible. That shoulder must be a mess. Hartline dropped several passes. And Small screwed up a sure TD catch by first running out of bounds and then flat dropping a well thrown ball. Posey and Sanz were factors. Maybe Small and Robo need to share more time with Posey and Sanz? 
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10-05-2008, 09:30 PM
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It represented a groan for not that again, but fine, let's go down that road.
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Well, if we are moaning about a 68% completion rate, I thought I could demonstrate the fallacy of your argument better if I brought up a couple of dropped passes that would have brought the completion rate to 80%. We certainly have a tough audience.
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Have you watched the play again at all, or do we need a link to it?
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Actually if you have a link, that'd be great.
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Krenzel's passing over the course of a game was rarely good. He managed the game, and was very clutch, but that's a low barometer.
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So you are saying that Krenzel is not a good comparison, but somehow there are six QBs in the Big 12 who are better than Pryor?
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I'll be interested to see 'by the numbers' from the ozone. There were many times where Terrelle did not throw the ball and settled for a short run instead. Many of those 15 carries for 20 yds came on passing downs.
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Well many of those runs, including the game winner, were designed runs. And the four sacks certainly wiped off a large part of that.
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