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I don't think the little emocon really lets me know anything except that you think my argument was stupid, an opinion which you are certainly entitled to, but really doesn't bring any meaning to the discussion.
It represented a groan for not that again, but fine, let's go down that road.

Have you watched the play again at all, or do we need a link to it?
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The last time we played at Randall Stadium in '03, Krenzel only completed 14 passes out of 26 attempts. I don't think Pryor did any worse than the senior QB.
Krenzel's passing over the course of a game was rarely good. He managed the game, and was very clutch, but that's a low barometer.

OSU did not need a great quarterback performance in that outing, they needed a tough leader, and Terrelle delivered.
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13 isn't a lot. But the plan right out of gun was to run the football. So when analyzing numbers, it's better to put them in context rather than looking at it from a vacuum.
I'll be interested to see 'by the numbers' from the ozone. There were many times where Terrelle did not throw the ball and settled for a short run instead. Many of those 15 carries for 20 yds came on passing downs.
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I'll be interested to see 'by the numbers' from the ozone. There were many times where Terrelle did not throw the ball and settled for a short run instead. Many of those 15 carries for 20 yds came on passing downs.
Agreed, but I'd love to see Terrelle's numbers once he learns it's ok to throw it away and not take a huge loss trying to make a big play. I appreciate his refusual to give up on a play but sometimes it is for the best to just toss it.
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Agreed, but I'd love to see Terrelle's numbers once he learns it's ok to throw it away and not take a huge loss trying to make a big play. I appreciate his refusual to give up on a play but sometimes it is for the best to just toss it.
agreed, some of those short runs did not make it back to the LOS.

What a wonderful problem to have, erring on this side of the spectrum
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Agreed, but I'd love to see Terrelle's numbers once he learns it's ok to throw it away and not take a huge loss trying to make a big play. I appreciate his refusual to give up on a play but sometimes it is for the best to just toss it.
...and when there is a Flex TE like Travis Beckum available to make the playaction game even nastier.

Jake Stoneburner will have a huge impact next season.
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The WRers didn't have a great game last night and provide help. Robo was all but invisible. That shoulder must be a mess. Hartline dropped several passes. And Small screwed up a sure TD catch by first running out of bounds and then flat dropping a well thrown ball. Posey and Sanz were factors. Maybe Small and Robo need to share more time with Posey and Sanz?
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It represented a groan for not that again, but fine, let's go down that road.
Well, if we are moaning about a 68% completion rate, I thought I could demonstrate the fallacy of your argument better if I brought up a couple of dropped passes that would have brought the completion rate to 80%. We certainly have a tough audience.

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Have you watched the play again at all, or do we need a link to it?
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Krenzel's passing over the course of a game was rarely good. He managed the game, and was very clutch, but that's a low barometer.
So you are saying that Krenzel is not a good comparison, but somehow there are six QBs in the Big 12 who are better than Pryor?


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I'll be interested to see 'by the numbers' from the ozone. There were many times where Terrelle did not throw the ball and settled for a short run instead. Many of those 15 carries for 20 yds came on passing downs.
Well many of those runs, including the game winner, were designed runs. And the four sacks certainly wiped off a large part of that.
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The WRers didn't have a great game last night and provide help. Robo was all but invisible. That shoulder must be a mess. Hartline dropped several passes. And Small screwed up a sure TD catch by first running out of bounds and then flat dropping a well thrown ball. Posey and Sanz were factors. Maybe Small and Robo need to share more time with Posey and Sanz?
bingo. every game they average a few drops and this is
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TB, I moved the continuing discussion here...
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TB, I moved the continuing discussion here...
Looks like I beat you to it...
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Man TP looks wise beyond his years. The big issue is he needs to work on getting rid of the ball and not taking the sack. Will proably have to live with that till he gets more games under his belt. Just afraid its going to hurt us in a future game. Glad he's a buckeye though. It could be worse we could be Michigan fans.
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Didn't realize this was your private thread.
Apparently you failed to notice, or more likely flat out ignore, the fact I was quoting powerlifter's reply to my earlier post.

Back to Pryor...this kid is going to be far above any of our wildest expectations.
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Memories of Pryor from the Wisconsin win

by Bill Livingston Plain Dealer Columnist Sunday October 05, 2008, 5:28 PM



Since this got lost in the last-minute dramatics and the deadline struggle to comment on Terrelle Pryor's traveling salvation show Saturday night, I figure better late than never, huh?
I have two dominant impressions of Ohio State's 20-17 thriller, and they both involve the 80-yard drive Pryor, the freshman wunderkind, led to win the game with 68 seconds left.

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By Tom Kubat ? tkubat@journalandcourier.com ? October 6, 2008
Count Joe Tiller among those who is impressed with Ohio State's wonder boy. Or should that be man among boys?
Unlike Beano Cook, who once predicted multiple Heismans for former Notre Dame quarterback Ron Powlus, I'm not going to go that far with regards to the Buckeyes' Terrelle Pryor.
But, I will venture to say, barring injury, he'll win at least one.
"The quarterback is an exceptional talent, certainly," Tiller said. "He's going to be a phenomenal player down the road. I'm really impressed with him."
Pryor, as they say, has it all. He's big, fast, agile, with a strong arm and, according the Ohio State coaches, a deep desire to be great.
Tiller joked that his neck and shoulders were sore just from watching on television as Pryor led the Buckeyes on two fourth-quarter scoring drives, including running 11 yards for the winning TD with 1:08 to play in Ohio State's 20-17 victory Saturday at Wisconsin.
"A very physical game, both teams," he said.
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Jim Tressel will never be accused of being the 2008 version of Don Cornelius. All the current Ohio State coach and the former host of Soul Train have in common is that they both wear wire-rimmed glasses. But late on Saturday evening, Tressel found himself standing in front of a bunch of kids who were dancing their hearts out, a position where Cornelius made a pretty decent living for himself as the host of the popular dance show. Late Saturday, instead of being distracted or intimidated by a stadium full of 80,000 fans at Wisconsin doing their traditional dancing to "Jump Around" at the start of the fourth quarter in a tense, tied game, the relaxed Buckeyes just danced along. Locked in a 10-10 slugfest at the time, Ohio State maintained its cool and went on to win the crucial Big Ten game 20-17 by retaking the lead twice in the final period. The Buckeyes mounted the winning drive in that highly-charged atmosphere and scored with just over a minute left in the game. Ohio State senior linebacker James Laurinaitis said the Buckeyes expected to be in a wire-to- wire sumo match with the Badgers, but that the spontaneous dance on the sideline between quarters showed him that his team was relaxed and enjoying the moment.
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