QB Terrelle Pryor (official thread)

[RocketBuckeye]

Originally Posted by mercurial1

If he doesn't start scanning recievers better and develope as a better pocket passer, I'd like to see them move him over to tight end or wide reciever.

The kid's got great hands and we all know he's fast enough and has the hieght for the position.

I think it would be a good move for everyone.

Cause let's face it, the way he's playin' right now he is not gonna make a pro QB.

Well, it's a tragedy then that he doesn't have two more full seasons, plus a ton of offseason work before he goes pro. Oh wait...

[OregonBuckeye]

Originally Posted by mercurial1

Cause let's face it, the way he's playin' right now he is not gonna make a pro QB.

Are we playing Penn State or the Indianapolis Colts tomorrow?

[mercurial1]

Originally Posted by RocketBuckeye

Well, it's a tragedy then that he doesn't have two more full seasons, plus a ton of offseason work before he goes pro. Oh wait...

I know he's young, Dude. He's only a sophomore and has time to get better.

I'm very torn on this guy sometimes.

I love the way he runs, and he's seldom to never gonna drop that ball with those huge hands, But I just wish he'd start throwin' it better.

But I'm stickin' to my guns when I say he'd make a better reciever.

He's not easy to bring down either.

I think he'd do well @ that position.

[mercurial1]

Originally Posted by MD Buckeye

So what part do you disagree with?

I've had several agree with me on switching his position.

All of which were very well read football fans, I'll mention.

This could very well mean the difference between a productive career in the NFL or no.

College is sometimes a great opportunity to discover you're better suited in a different job on the football field.

[OSUbuckeye09]

Originally Posted by mercurial1

I know he's young, Dude. He's only a sophomore and has time to get better.

I'm very torn on this guy sometimes.

I love the way he runs, and he's seldom to never gonna drop that ball with those huge hands, But I just wish he'd start throwin' it better.

But I'm stickin' to my guns when I say he'd make a better reciever.

He's not easy to bring down either.

I think he'd do well @ that position.

Once he gets jammed at the line hell never breakoff the corner. Strides are too big

[lvbuckeye]

Originally Posted by mercurial1

I know he's young, Dude. He's only a sophomore and has time to get better.

I'm very torn on this guy sometimes.

I love the way he runs, and he's seldom to never gonna drop that ball with those huge hands, But I just wish he'd start throwin' it better.

But I'm stickin' to my guns when I say he'd make a better reciever.

He's not easy to bring down either.

I think he'd do well @ that position.

he may be fast, but his first step isn't. jam him, and he'd never get off the line of scrimmage.

[NateG]

Originally Posted by OSUbuckeye09

Once he gets jammed at the line hell never breakoff the corner. Strides are too big

Originally Posted by lvbuckeye

he may be fast, but his first step isn't. jam him, and he'd never get off the line of scrimmage.

Only one would jam him....

YouTube - Space balls RADAR JAMMED High Quality

[Buckeye86]

big day today for Mr. Pryor

[MaxBuck]

I think I read someone commenting that Pryor should switch to wide receiver. What a brilliant idea! Don't think I've ever heard this wise comment before.

[Tlangs]

Originally Posted by billmac91

I take more offense to Tressel calling it a game with only a 3(?) score lead. Thats not on Terrelle. But if New Mexico State takes that kickoff the distance, does Terrelle put his pads back on? After making an awful decesion to play Bauserman against Navy, his awful decesion not to make it a 3 score lead against Navy, his awful game management against USC at the end of the first half, his awful game management at the end of the first half against Purdue, and arguably against Wisconsin for the squib kick....I could have sworn New Mexico State was going to score quickly once I saw Pryor in street clothes minus the pants.

It was a 4 touchdown lead. TP had a passing TD and a rushing TD, Posey had a passing TD, and Saine had a TD off the option pitch from Pryor.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by billmac91

I take more offense to Tressel calling it a game with only a 3(?) score lead. Thats not on Terrelle. But if New Mexico State takes that kickoff the distance, does Terrelle put his pads back on? After making an awful decesion to play Bauserman against Navy, his awful decesion not to make it a 3 score lead against Navy, his awful game management against USC at the end of the first half, his awful game management at the end of the first half against Purdue, and arguably against Wisconsin for the squib kick....I could have sworn New Mexico State was going to score quickly once I saw Pryor in street clothes minus the pants.

It was a 4 TD lead. At that point NMSU had something like 30 total yards of offense.

There was nothing to be gained (and as we saw with Pettrey) and EVERYTHING to lose by leaving Pryor in the game at that point.

[Drubuck]

I will admit that I was on the hate train for Pryor. Especially after the Purdue game. Sure we have played Minn and NMS the past 2 weeks but what I've seen in Pryors growth over those 2 weeks is leeps and bounds over what he showed in the begining of the season. He was stepping into his throws, when he rolled out to pass, he squared his shoulders. And even more impressively, he threw the ball away instead of trying to force something or trying to run the ball for a possible loss. He's growing and will continue to grow. I will claim that I was an idiot and like many Buckeye fans, wanted him to be what he was promised. I forgot that he was a 19yr old kid who is still learing the game. So for all that are still on the hate wagon for Pryor, these 3 games will prove his worth and I hope he proves the haters and myself that he isn't just tuck and run qb.

[Best Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Drubuck

I will admit that I was on the hate train for Pryor. Especially after the Purdue game. Sure we have played Minn and NMS the past 2 weeks but what I've seen in Pryors growth over those 2 weeks is leeps and bounds over what he showed in the begining of the season. He was stepping into his throws, when he rolled out to pass, he squared his shoulders. And even more impressively, he threw the ball away instead of trying to force something or trying to run the ball for a possible loss. He's growing and will continue to grow. I will claim that I was an idiot and like many Buckeye fans, wanted him to be what he was promised. I forgot that he was a 19yr old kid who is still learing the game. So for all that are still on the hate wagon for Pryor, these 3 games will prove his worth and I hope he proves the haters and myself that he isn't just tuck and run qb.

What kind of a Buckeye fan has a "hate train " for anything Buckeye? I have never heard that expression before and I, for one, don't care to hear it again.
Be constructively critical if you want but hate ? wth is that about.

[LordJeffBuck]

Originally Posted by mercurial1

If he doesn't start scanning recievers better and develope as a better pocket passer, I'd like to see them move him over to tight end or wide reciever.

The kid's got great hands and we all know he's fast enough and has the hieght for the position.

I think it would be a good move for everyone.

Terrelle Pryor is the best pure athlete ever to play at Ohio State. Just think about all of the great Buckeye players over the years ... Chic Harley ... Wes Fesler ... Les Horvath ... Vic Janowicz ... Hopalong Cassady ... Archie Griffin ... Eddie George ... Troy Smith ... and all of the great Buckeye athletes ... Paul Warfield ... Rex Kern ... Cornelius Greene ... Neal Colzie ... Joey Galloway ... Chris Gamble ... Teddy Ginn.... And guess what? Terrelle Pryor is a better pure athlete, has more natural talent, than any of them. He's a freak.

And what's the most important position on the offense? Quarterback, without question, because the entire offense runs through the quarterback. The quarterback has more opportunities to make plays than any other player, and if he is a "dual threat" quarterback, then he can make plays in both the passing game and the running game. Especially in a "read option" system that Ohio State has been using at times this year.

Now what's the least important position on the offensive side of the ball? Wide receiver, because unlike quarterbacks and running backs, wide receivers can't make plays by themselves ... in other words, wide receivers need someone to get them the ball. And unlike quarterbacks and running backs, a wide receiver can be shut down in one-on-one matchups. And when a wide receiver isn't the focus of the play (and he usually isn't), he doesn't really have much to do ... unlike linemen, wide receivers rarely block at the point of attack ... unlike running backs, wide receivers never block in pass protection ... wide receivers aren't even very good decoys, generally speaking.

So, here's the situation with Terrelle Pryor ... the best pure athlete ever to don the scarlet and grey ... playing by far the most important position on offense (on the whole team, really) ... with decent production and many big plays through his first year and a half ... in an offense that is designed around a mobile quarterback and has several designed quarterback runs ... and you want to move him? From the most important position on the team to the least? From a position where he has 40 or 50 chances to make impact plays every game to a position where he might get 6 or 8 chances a game to even touch the football? Really? Doesn't make much sense to me....

Even if Pryor only realizes 60% to 70% of his potential at Ohio State, he'll still go down in Buckeye history as one of the greatest and most productive players ever. He would do no such thing as a wide receiver.

Originally Posted by mercurial1

Cause let's face it, the way he's playin' right now he is not gonna make a pro QB.

Let's face it ... I really don't care whether Pryor makes it in the NFL. Besides, Pryor will be a high draft pick based on his unreal combination of size and pure athleticism, together with his high ceiling.

Originally Posted by mercurial1

I know he's young, Dude. He's only a sophomore and has time to get better.

Oh, yeah? Then why do you essentially ignore this fact in your argument? Pryor is already #12 on the Buckeyes' list of career total yardage leaders ... and he could crack the top ten by the end of his sophomore season ... and barring injury or an early exit for the NFL, he will almost certainly be the Buckeyes' career total yardage leader when he graduates, breaking Art Schlichter's 30-year old record in the process (8,850 yards from 1978 to 1981). But you're willing to give up on the most productive Buckeye offensive player in history because ... why? You'd rather see him get a few catches a game at wide receiver? Um, no thanks....

Originally Posted by mercurial1

But I'm stickin' to my guns when I say he'd make a better reciever.

Even if you are right ... and you aren't ... what is Ohio State's other quarterback option right now? Joe Bauserman? Kenny Guiton? Some walk-on? It's not like the Buckeyes have a couple of five-star quarterbacks waiting in the wings just in case Pryor can't cut it. Pryor at wide receiver would be a monumental waste of talent and potential ... but you would compound your error exponentially if you replaced him with a quarterback who can't get him the ball.

Okay, so Ohio State doesn't exactly have a stable of quarterbacks right now, so it's understandable that your suggested move makes no practical sense (it makes no theoretical sense either, as I explained above). But how many teams are there where Pryor wouldn't be the clear starting quarterback right now? Florida and Texas for sure, probably Notre Dame and Oregon, maybe Southern Cal and Oklahoma State ... anyone else? So Pryor sits behind Tebow, McCoy, Clausen, and Masoli ... maybe the top four Heisman candidates right now ... and more than likely beats out every other quarterback in the country. But you want to move him? To wide receiver? So that he can get three or four catches a game with Joe Bauserman throwing him the ball? Get outta here....

Originally Posted by mercurial1

He's not easy to bring down either.

He's not easy to bring down as a quarterback ... and he gets five to ten times as many chances to make plays at quarterback than he would at wide receiver.

And as others have already mentioned, tall wide receivers often have difficulty getting off of the line and gaining separation from defensive backs.

As to your suggestion that Pryor be moved to tight end ... I don't know anyone who would even consider putting a "skinny" kid with 4.3 speed at tight end. Maybe someone from the Browns' front office....

Originally Posted by mercurial1

I've had several agree with me on switching his position.

All of which were very well read football fans, I'll mention.

I doubt very much that you have had "several ... well read football fans" agree with your argument. Maybe several well-lubricated football fans.

Originally Posted by mercurial1

This could very well mean the difference between a productive career in the NFL or no.

College is sometimes a great opportunity to discover you're better suited in a different job on the football field.

If some genius in some NFL front office wants to experiment with Pryor at wide receiver, then more power to him. But I'm not taking a kid who is on track to be the Buckeyes' most productive offensive player ever and moving him from a position where he is the focal point of the offense and every play runs through him to a position where he might get six or eight touches a game.

[Woody1968]

Originally Posted by mercurial1

If he doesn't start scanning recievers better and develope as a better pocket passer, I'd like to see them move him over to tight end or wide reciever.

The kid's got great hands and we all know he's fast enough and has the hieght for the position.

I think it would be a good move for everyone.

Cause let's face it, the way he's playin' right now he is not gonna make a pro QB.

Oh lord...