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Old 11-08-2009, 11:22 AM
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Unfortunately, Tebow has played one less game, due to a bye week, so a head-to-head statistical comparison at this point is not that telling.

Considering Meyer never takes Tebow out with a lead, (see last night vs Vandy up 27-3 with 5 min left and Tebow still in there) I think it's a very accurate comparison.

Tress did sit Pryor for the entire second half vs NMSU...Meyer would have had Tebow in there for his 3rd 4th and 5th TD's.

And we've seen Bauserman in mop up duty a few different times this year even in the first half.

TP is becoming what I envisioned when he first announced he would be a Buckeye. A poised and dangerous QB.
I was most impressed with his poise last night more than anything. His accuracy was good, not great but good. He didn't turn the ball over or take any sacks. (nice job O-line!) His decision making made a leap forward last night too. Very, very impressive. Especially vs. a pretty decent PSU D in that hostile enviroment. It won't get any easier against Iowa though. I believe their front four is better than what we saw from PSU.




Great game TP!!
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see how good this guy can be when he's not running for his life and gets some help from the line and running game.....all you haters [censored] off!
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:49 AM
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I can think of at least 2 drops too, great job delivering the ball last night. That pass he threw to Dane that was too long was a bomb! I was disappointed we couldn't connect there but it was encouraging to see him throw one deep like that. Lets hope this is a stepping stone for TP and the O-line. Wasn't sacked one time!

Troy went into Crappy Valley in his 2nd year as a starter and came home with a loss. Just sayin...
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absolutely loved the two swing passes we ran to Posey early in the game....i was wondering why we didn't see it run in the second half......
I think the purpose of those was to make the defense have to spread out and quit loading the box, in order to help establish the run.
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"He did a good job," Tressel said. "He's done a good job every week of understanding more and more. I've never wavered in my thinking of his progress. I know others have, but I get to be at practice and I get to be at meetings."
I read this quote from Tressel regarding Pryor's development and I think it summed it up quite nicely. I think he has handled the Pryor situation very well. It sure is nice to wake up the day after a big game with a little bump in your step.
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To me Purdue was that life-changing moment in TP's maturation as a football player. Here are his stats since that game....

Passing stats....32/65 (49.2%) for 499 yards, TD/INT - 5/1

Rushing stats....29 rushes for 237 yards (8.2 yds/carry) and 3 TDs

The two highlighted stats are the most impressive. the TD/INT ratio speaks of his improved decision making....and he is also a more effective runner making better decisions of when to tuck the football and get to the sticks.
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If his progression continues, I wouldn't be very surprised if pretty soon we have the best damn college quarterback in the land!
This game was as much about OL protection, a scheme that gave him quick outlets, and a successful running game as TP's improvement.

I don't think TP has ever been as bad as some folks think he was. That had everything to do with the absence of the above.

Nor do I believe he is quite as good as others now seem to believe - at least in regards to his passing game. However, he has seen marked improvement in his decision making as a result of better understanding of what is happening as the play develops. That will provide the foundation for marked improvement the rest of his career.

However good he was Saturday, it may also be as bad as he gets.
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Now that the "Pryor to WR" crap has been killed for a week, let's look at some areas of progress.

First, though he's continuing to improve, there are still some issues with mechanics, and I'm waiting to see him really step in and throw consistent strikes on out routes. If he can get to a point where he can nail those regularly, he's going to be a pretty good QB, to use a Tresselism.

Second, he's standing in the pocket a little longer, yet still managing to avoid taking a hit. Something few people seem to talk about with Pryor is the fact that even when he does get sacked, he never gets drilled. His escapability serves to protect him in the pocket, and once he's on the run, he's more likely to deliver a big hit than to take one.

Third, he's starting to look off receivers. He even mentioned this on the throw to Posey that he looked the safety off. That's a nice skill to have, and indicates that he's getting a good grasp on how defenses work. It's also part of an aggressive mindset on the part of the QB that says "I'm going to manipulate you and exploit your weaknesses".

Fourth, in the post game interviews he sounded like he understood very well what he was seeing from the defense, which is a sign that the game is slowing down for him. He also seems to be understanding how his ability to run affects the defense, and employing it the way a good baseball pitcher uses a changeup to keep the batter off balance.

Missing on the deep throws doesn't bother me so much, as long as the ball is going where the defense can't get it, as in the incomplete to Sanzo. Even when you miss that ball, it's going to stretch the defense and move the safeties back. Yes, you want to hit it, but I'll take 50% on that for now.

Much has been made about Vince Young and comparisons, and here is where they are diverging. When VY started to turn the corner and take over, it was because he started playing "his" game, letting "Vince be Vince", yadda yadda which was to use his running ability and athleticism to open up passing. Pryor is doing something much different. He's understanding the defense, taking what they're giving and becoming a smarter QB. He's on the path to becoming a Quarterback with athletic ability, not an athlete playing Quarterback. It's going to be interesting to see how he develops in the five weeks between the scUM game and the bowl game, because I think he's hitting the fast part of the learning curve.
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How stupid those Penn State fans looked with those 'Pryor failure' T shirts walking out of the stadium. Oh the irony of failure...
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Now that the "Pryor to WR" crap has been killed for a week, let's look at some areas of progress.

First, though he's continuing to improve, there are still some issues with mechanics, and I'm waiting to see him really step in and throw consistent strikes on out routes. If he can get to a point where he can nail those regularly, he's going to be a pretty good QB, to use a Tresselism.

Second, he's standing in the pocket a little longer, yet still managing to avoid taking a hit. Something few people seem to talk about with Pryor is the fact that even when he does get sacked, he never gets drilled. His escapability serves to protect him in the pocket, and once he's on the run, he's more likely to deliver a big hit than to take one.

Third, he's starting to look off receivers. He even mentioned this on the throw to Posey that he looked the safety off. That's a nice skill to have, and indicates that he's getting a good grasp on how defenses work. It's also part of an aggressive mindset on the part of the QB that says "I'm going to manipulate you and exploit your weaknesses".

Fourth, in the post game interviews he sounded like he understood very well what he was seeing from the defense, which is a sign that the game is slowing down for him. He also seems to be understanding how his ability to run affects the defense, and employing it the way a good baseball pitcher uses a changeup to keep the batter off balance.

Missing on the deep throws doesn't bother me so much, as long as the ball is going where the defense can't get it, as in the incomplete to Sanzo. Even when you miss that ball, it's going to stretch the defense and move the safeties back. Yes, you want to hit it, but I'll take 50% on that for now.

Much has been made about Vince Young and comparisons, and here is where they are diverging. When VY started to turn the corner and take over, it was because he started playing "his" game, letting "Vince be Vince", yadda yadda which was to use his running ability and athleticism to open up passing. Pryor is doing something much different. He's understanding the defense, taking what they're giving and becoming a smarter QB. He's on the path to becoming a Quarterback with athletic ability, not an athlete playing Quarterback. It's going to be interesting to see how he develops in the five weeks between the scUM game and the bowl game, because I think he's hitting the fast part of the learning curve.
Exactly, this is what we have been looking for all year, and if he plays at the level he did yesterday, we will be hard to beat. Not only that, but if he continues to progress in the areas you mentioned, he very well may even exceed expectations...
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How stupid those Penn State fans looked with those 'Pryor failure' T shirts walking out of the stadium. Oh the irony of failure...
This is why you don't talk [censored] before a game. That's bush league Jim Rome stuff.
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I know he's young, Dude. He's only a sophomore and has time to get better.

I'm very torn on this guy sometimes.

I love the way he runs, and he's seldom to never gonna drop that ball with those huge hands, But I just wish he'd start throwin' it better.

But I'm stickin' to my guns when I say he'd make a better reciever.

He's not easy to bring down either.

I think he'd do well @ that position.
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Back to Pryor. The win against PSU is just the win he needs to instill confidence in himself. He went out there and played calm, collective, and inspired. That win will not only carry himself, but also his teammates.

Pryor is slowly maturing into not only the QB OSU needs him to be, but also the QB he desperately wants to be. Great game by the young man.

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I know he's young, Dude. He's only a sophomore and has time to get better.

I'm very torn on this guy sometimes.

I love the way he runs, and he's seldom to never gonna drop that ball with those huge hands, But I just wish he'd start throwin' it better.

But I'm stickin' to my guns when I say he'd make a better reciever.

He's not easy to bring down either.

I think he'd do well @ that position.
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This game was as much about OL protection, a scheme that gave him quick outlets, and a successful running game as TP's improvement.

I don't think TP has ever been as bad as some folks think he was. That had everything to do with the absence of the above.
don't forget about the wr's. its no mistake that the guys he goes to most often are also the guys who have been with the program the longest.
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Actually, the "Pryor to receiver" crowd got their wish too. Direct snaps to Boom and Saine - Pryor was out wide.
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