RB Jaamal Berry (official thread)

[lord vegas]

Its about Frame not Height. They are not the same thing.

[southcampus]

I can't believe I'm even reading people questioning JBerry's ability before he even suits up. Especially, after watching his HS tape in which he tore up some of the best HS athletes in the nation. So he was involved in some bad stuff last weekend, doesn't make him any worse of a player. Kid is a stud. Can't wait to see him tear it up.

[Taosman]

There's no doubt some are just "piling on" as a result of the off the field stuff. And the relative disappointment with Mo Wells. The same people would have loved Javon Ringer or Tyrell Sutton here. I would have.

[zincfinger]

Originally Posted by southcampus

I can't believe I'm even reading people questioning JBerry's ability before he even suits up. Especially, after watching his HS tape in which he tore up some of the best HS athletes in the nation. So he was involved in some bad stuff last weekend, doesn't make him any worse of a player. Kid is a stud. Can't wait to see him tear it up.

Originally Posted by Taosman

There's no doubt some are just "piling on" as a result of the off the field stuff. And the relative disappointment with Mo Wells. The same people would have loved Javon Ringer or Tyrell Sutton here. I would have.

One person suggested that Berry's height was possibly a detriment, and then about ten people immediately disagreed with him. That's hardly a case of "some people" questioning his ability. Unless, by "some people", you mean "one person".

[southcampus]

Originally Posted by zincfinger

One person suggested that Berry's height was possibly a detriment, and then about ten people immediately disagreed with him. That's hardly a case of "some people" questioning his ability. Unless, by "some people", you mean "one person".

Not just in this thread, but also in the mill.

[zincfinger]

Originally Posted by southcampus

Not just in this thread, but also in the mill.

I read the rumor mill thread and didn't see a bunch of people questioning Berry's talents/potential, but then again, I wasn't looking for it at the time, so maybe I missed it.

[sparcboxbuck]

Originally Posted by zincfinger

One person suggested that Berry's height was possibly a detriment, and then about ten people immediately disagreed with him. That's hardly a case of "some people" questioning his ability. Unless, by "some people", you mean "one person".

That "one person" would have been me... and yes, a lot of people have (deservedly) piled on. I don't think that I made a very good attempt at getting out what I was really trying to say. My issue isn't with JB or his height per se, and I hardly question his ability. I think that the subtle point that I was trying to make was lost on the height comment alone. It is, as people have pointed out, not a matter of height. It is a matter of frame, vision, running style and what I think is an issue the team has had over the last couple years... an OLine that can create a hole that is suitable for a back of JBs stature, speed and vision to get thru. And again, I look forward to his success in S&G...

My apologies if the comments were not taken as intended.

[Buckrock]

Originally Posted by sparcboxbuck

That "one person" would have been me... and yes, a lot of people have (deservedly) piled on. I don't think that I made a very good attempt at getting out what I was really trying to say. My issue isn't with JB or his height per se, and I hardly question his ability. I think that the subtle point that I was trying to make was lost on the height comment alone. It is, as people have pointed out, not a matter of height. It is a matter of frame, vision, running style and what I think is an issue the team has had over the last couple years... an OLine that can create a hole that is suitable for a back of JBs stature, speed and vision to get thru. And again, I look forward to his success in S&G...

My apologies if the comments were not taken as intended.

No problem Bro! This is the good old USA and not Iran. By the way i did not pile on. Keep the posts coming.

[BUKEsqBuck]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

You say that as if it's a simple decision. To enroll early, you have to graduate early and that takes a lot of planning. It isn't done on a whim. Not to mention Jaamal apparently had to spend much of his senior year getting his academics in order...

That was a comment made in jest (and possibly wishful thinking) which was predicated upon the sharp disparity between Ohio and Florida law. I fully support Jamal and hope to see him in S&G. I was excited when he committed, when he signed and will be excited when I can see him on the field at any point. I think that it is ridiculous for a potential punishment for that "crime" to be so severe... I mean it is not exactly as if the Ohio legislature is the most "live and let live" liberal body in the country and see their view on it, "give us $150 and get out of here".

I for one do not question the talent or the potential of JB and to see the haters flock to this board in that regard frustrates me to no end. I think it should be known the the vast majority (and sane contingent) of BuckeyeNation supports JB and does not possess the same "chicken-little-mentality" as being exhibited by you johnny come lately naysayers.

Lets all hope he gets over this bump in the road on his way to the Shoe. This case would be something less than an afterthought in EVERY court I practice in and that is NOT because of his stature as a premire athelete. It would and is given the same treatment in regard to every Tommy, Dick, Harry, Cheech, and Thurgood Jenkins that comes before Lady Justice in my corner of Ohio.

[Bucky Katt]

Originally Posted by BUKEsqBuck

I for one do not question the talent or the potential of JB and to see the haters flock to this board in that regard frustrates me to no end. I think it should be known the the vast majority (and sane contingent) of BuckeyeNation supports JB and does not possess the same "chicken-little-mentality" as being exhibited by you johnny come lately naysayers.

"Haters"? "johnny come lately naysayers"? Really? I haven't seen anything that would even come close to qualify as "hating" on Jaamal.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by Bucky Katt

"Haters"? "johnny come lately naysayers"? Really? I haven't seen anything that would even come close to qualify as "hating" on Jaamal.

It appears people like to multiply critical posters, or create imaginary criticisms of certain players so they can defend him and say "I told you so" later to said imaginary masses. Even if they're really saying it to a very select few. I don't get it either.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

It appears people like to multiply critical posters, or create imaginary criticisms of certain players so they can defend him and say "I told you so" later to said imaginary masses. Even if they're really saying it to a very select few. I don't get it either.

You're at least the 10th person to say that in this thread. All of you are over-reacting.

[AKAKBUCK]

Originally Posted by BB73

You're at least the 10th person to say that in this thread. All of you are over-reacting.

11th.

[SayNoToMichigan]

Berry has officially arrived in C-bus...

[BuckeyeMike80]

How about we see what the kid does on the field in Division 1 football before we try to figure out what his detriments are...?

BTW, yes I hate the off-season too.