OSU buys out game in Cincinnati and moves it to Columbus in 2012

[Honor&Glory]

Originally Posted by martinss01

i laughed, then i cried, then i laughed again. as a resident of cincitucky for 10 years .

I stoped reading your post after this part...anyting you had to say beyond 'cincitucky' was going to be biased and innacurate.

[OSU2003TR]

Originally Posted by Honor&Glory

and I think you are using the 'anyone, anywhere' comment backwards to make your point. 'anyone, anywhere' is always attributed to playing up in competition. not down. What can UC gain by playing MAC teams on a regular basis? Why shouldn't they shun the little guy and think bigger?

I grant you that a lot of UC fans are blowhards that have a hateful lust for Ohio State. attitudes like yours are probalby the reason.
I'm a UC almun and a fan, too. thanks for calling me 'unsophisticated'. I'll take the high road here.

Take it easy, bro - I hail from Cincinnati, and have plenty of friends down there. I'm not saying people down there are "unsophisticated" - it's a fine city with fine people. I'm not here to insult anyone personally, I was simply trying to be a little humorous while pointing out how their fans are acting on the message boards. They trash "o$u" fans for the way that they treat UC fans all day every day - all the while treating MU fans the exact same way. I think it's called "projection".

[BUCKYLE]

Originally Posted by Honor&Glory

I grant you that a lot of UC fans are blowhards that have a hateful lust for Ohio State. attitudes like yours are probalby the reason.

The Cincinnati fans I've come accross (present company excluded) are the reason I don't give two [censored]s about a bearcat. I'm sure you know plenty, the ones that root for scUM over the Bucks. I really don't care why little brother doesn't like us, though I'd think it has more to do with an inferiority complex and just plain ol' jealousy than remarks tOSU fans make from time to time when Cincinnati's historically sorry excuse for a football program crosses our minds.

[Honor&Glory]

Originally Posted by BUCKYLE

The Cincinnati fans I've come accross (present company excluded) are the reason I don't give two [censored]s about a bearcat. I'm sure you know plenty, the ones that root for scUM over the Bucks. I really don't care why little brother doesn't like us, though I'd think it has more to do with an inferiority complex and just plain ol' jealousy than remarks tOSU fans make from time to time when Cincinnati's historically sorry excuse for a football program crosses our minds.

I agree with some of what you say, but I really think OSU's refusal to play regular season basketball games with UC (the schools 'money' sport) has a lot more to do with it than anything else.

Yes, I know a few UC fans who do not like OSU but, generally, do not 'root' against OSU because they just don't care. Those UC fans would rather see UC beat OSU than scUM....however, I know plenty of UC fans, like myself, who were raised to be diehard Buckeye fans and even wear OSU gear to Nippert Stadium from time to time... (just not to the alumni functions before the game)

[cincibuck]

The UC basketabll fan and the UC football fan are two different breeds.

As I tried to point out most football fans in Cincinnati focus on their high school first, then the Bengals. If they pay attention to college ball at all it tends to be Notre Dame... it's a very Catholic town, especially on the west side.

Ohio State football is a curiousity to them, "what's with the red (they think Scarlet is the owner of Tara) and gray?" "Is that the school in Athens?" "Do they always get so worked up about the Michigan game?" "Is that something like UC and Miami?" "Oh, remember when we beat you in the NCAA's twice?"

Part is the history of the place, they really do see themselves apart from Ohio. It has cost them big time in the amount of pork flowing from Columbus and is a good part of the reason why Columbus now outstrips Cincinnati in size and growth.

Football wise, things really turned sour when Earl Bruce got into a [censored]ing contest with the city's media. Cooper worked hard to restore relations and grabbed some very important recruits out of here that might well have gone to Ann Arbor or South Bend in previous years. The NC in 03 helped turn things even more favorably. But it is always tenuous.

It's a town with a very European mind set. You go to Elder or St.X because great, great grandaddy did. You stay in town for school or maybe wander as far away as Oxford, You work for P&G, you buy your home in Delhi or Anderson, but you don't leave The Capital city of the Tri-State.

The UC fans really yearn for a part of the action. Nippert is a sweet little stadium setting, right in the heart of the campus. The shift ot the Big East has them thinking they've come a long way toward narrowing the gap. Like Louisville, they have great facilities and potential and one of these years they will beat an OSU team. I don't blame them for their enthusiasm.

[ORD_Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Honor&Glory

I grant you that a lot of UC fans are blowhards that have a hateful lust for Ohio State. attitudes like yours are probalby the reason.
I'm a UC almun and a fan, too. thanks for calling me 'unsophisticated'. I'll take the high road here.

You do realize that the whole "unsophisticated" bit was a metaphor...a metaphor for UC's nouveau riche BCS status? It wasn't a direct slam on UC or her alumni.

[HailToMichigan]

Originally Posted by ORD_Buckeye

Where do the might Bearkittens stand. Top 20 program they're most definitely NOT. Here are the programs that I'd put ahead of them.

The entire SEC--12 schools
Big East: certainly Pitt and WVU, Syracuse based on tradition, history and future potential and Rutgers and Louisville based on better recent success--5 schools
Domers--1 school
Big Ten (all except NW and IU)--9 schools
Big 12: Texas, A&M, Tech, OU, OSU, KSU, Colorado, Nebraska, Mizzou, ISU and with last year's success Kansas--11 schools
Pac 10--All 10
ACC: Miami, FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA, Maryland, BC, VT, GT and NC State--10 schools
Mid Majors: Boise, Fresno, BYU and Colorado State--4 schools

Being very generous, I have a hard time considering them a top 60 program!

I think you're being way generous. Navy, Miami (OH), Utah, Southern Miss....

I remember being damn near shocked about ten years ago upon seeing Cincinnati in a bowl game. Since then, things have been looking better, but their bowl trips have been littered with words like Motor City and Humanitarian. UC is a basketball school that only recently jumped on the serious football train. They're Villanova with a I-A football program. They're in basketball country, what with Louisville and UK being so nearby. The Big East has become a basketball conference - just look at the football lineup, it's a mishmash of basketball schools and football schools that didn't mesh geographically or academically with the ACC.

This is an outside-Ohio take, anyway. Cincy is indeed working on building a fine football program - finer than in the past anyway - and a little luck has helped them along the way. But to call them even a top-40 program as of right now is doable only by their very recent association with a conference that dubiously clings to BCS status; this is where the luck comes in, because had the ACC not also desired to boost their football status, Cincy would still be stuck in Conf-USA.