If tOSU was in the SEC...

[BB73]

Originally Posted by cincibuck

Don't make me laugh. At any one of those games the schools each receive something on the order of 16K tickets apiece. That leaves another 30 to 70K to be bought by the public, ie. the local movers and shakers, corporations and other locals and near locals. Some will go to travel agencies, some to scalpers, but most will go to Texas football fans.

All of those other tickets don't have to go to "local movers and shakers". I am now a "season ticket holder" to the Fiesta Bowl. This will give me tickets to the 2009, 2010, and 2011 Fiesta Bowls - and the right to buy tickets to the 2011 BCS Title Game (after the 2010 season in which a tOSU team will have a third-year QB named Pryor facing Miami, Penn State, and TSUN all in Columbus) - I like tOSU's chances to play in that game in 2010, and I've planned ahead.

[shetuck]

ESPN/AP: King Football rules in the South

Water turns to kool aid-flavored wine, south of the Mason-Dixon line.

King Football rules in the South

Associated Press
Updated: August 14, 2008, 7:42 PM ET

NEW YORK -- The first college football game was played 139 years ago in New Jersey, between Rutgers and Princeton, and the sport was dominated by Northeastern schools such as Yale and Harvard in its infancy.

By the middle of the last century the South had risen in college football, and these days there's no question: If you want to win a national championship, it's best to play in places where sunscreen is more important than snow boots, and the grits are better than the bagels.

Why? Simple. Because that's where the best players are.

Since the Bowl Championship Series started crowning a national champion in 1998, Ohio State and Oklahoma are the only schools that play in cold weather to have won a championship. And it's important to point out that Oklahoma borders Texas, which has more high school football players than any other state.

cont'd...

[Bluegras Buck-i]

If you survey SEC fans, I bet you get about a 500 season for OSU in SEC. They would put OSU in the middle to bottom of the pack. I hear UK fans exert their football greatness just because they play in the SEC and they claim OSU sucks.

So what is the SEC's record vs the Big 10 in the BSC era (last 10 years essentially) which is the height of SEC reign?

If you listen to SEC fans, you would think they are 50-0 and won every game by 6 TDs due to their serious speed and atheticism.

In reality the SEC, I believe, has a slim margin but don't present facts to SEC fans.

[DaddyBigBucks]

Originally Posted by Gatorubet

... until you ...hold one of our offenses to 80 something total yards in a big BCS game...

I agree with you that this is the way that most fans think; and since that was your point, what I say next is not taking issue with you but rather going in a different direction.

The fans who feel that way are ignoring the fact that a team does not get held to "80 something total yards" if they show up even remotely prepared mentally, physically, schematically, emotionally or sexually (just seeing if you're still paying attention).

Check the total yardage for most IA vs. IAA (FBS vs. FCS) games over the last few years. Holding a team to less than 90 yards is RARE, even when one of the teams is laden with future NFL stars and the other is devoid of a single player that will gain an invitation to any NFL camp.

But the 2006 Buckeyes had numerous players that are either already on NFL rosters or will be when their time here is done. A team with that kind of talent does not put up 80 something yards if it shows up. Many Florida fans where I am (which happen to be mostly of the bandwagon variety) could never be persuaded that they got anything but OSU's best effort that night. There are few opinions in the world of college football that are less reasonable than that.

So while some will wait for us to "do to them what they did to us"; what they are really waiting for is an SEC team to completely sleep-walk through bowl preparation and performance time. It might happen vs. OSU in the future, and it might not. Either way, it will prove nothing.

[redbenn]

Originally Posted by Bluegras Buck-i

In reality the SEC, I believe, has a slim margin but don't present facts to SEC fans.

since 1998 the big 10 is 17-19 against the SEC

3-2 at home
0-4 away
14-13 neutral site

[Bluegras Buck-i]

Originally Posted by redbenn

since 1998 the big 10 is 17-19 against the SEC

3-2 at home
0-4 away
14-13 neutral site

So do the following games count as away or neutral?

OSU vs LSU in New Orleans,LA (2008)
Mich vs UF in Orlando (2008)
Mich vs UF in Tampa (2003)
Iowa vs UF in Tampa (2006)
Iowa vs UF in Tampa (2007)

[smithlabs]

Originally Posted by DaddyBigBucks

I agree with you that this is the way that most fans think; and since that was your point, what I say next is not taking issue with you but rather going in a different direction.

The fans who feel that way are ignoring the fact that a team does not get held to "80 something total yards" if they show up even remotely prepared mentally, physically, schematically, emotionally or sexually (just seeing if you're still paying attention).

I was helping my eighth grade daughter with her math homework. We were discussing data outliers. The two examples they had were within three sigma of the mean and they were called outliers. In this case the YPG was
[488 348 444 253 400 387 421 540 484 224 425 503 82]

for an average of 410 and a one sigma deviation of 96. The Florida game was 3.4 sigmas from the mean. Once again pointing out the obvious that the game was an abomination in every sense of the word.

I think DBB is hit the nail on the head.

[Wells4Heisman]

What about an SEC team playing our schedule... I could see any of them losing 2 games... maybe 3.

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by Wells4Heisman

What about an SEC team playing our schedule... I could see any of them losing 2 games... maybe 3.

The refs are that bad??? Incredible!

[DaytonBuck]

Could we play as dirty as the SEC if OSU was in it?

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by DaytonBuck

Could we play as dirty as the SEC if OSU was in it?

[Flocka]

Originally Posted by Gatorubet

Sweet sig.

[shetuck]

Originally Posted by Gatorubet

The refs are that bad expensive??? Incredible!

Fixed it...

No pun intended.

[DaytonBuck]

I'd be willing to bet the biggest challenge we would face would be adapting on an institutional level. With the coin SEC schools pay for their football coaches I would think down there we would have a few more 800 pound gorillas at the cocktail vis a vi football budgets.

[goodguy]

If OSU was in the SEC...

As buckeye fans we'd all have to get used to drinking lots of sweet tea.

As for the OSU football team, they'd have to get used to playing all of their SEC matchups away. Of course their out of conference games would only be played at Ohio State or at least within the the state of Ohio or in special situations at a neutral location within the midwest.