BP Poll - Week 6

[LordJeffBuck]

01. Oklahoma 347 (11); lost to Texas, 35-45
02. Missouri 323; lost to Oklahoma State, 23-28
03. Alabama 315 (1); bye week
04. Louisiana State 314 (2); lost to Florida, 21-51
05. Texas 308; beat Oklahoma, 45-35
06. Penn State 284; beat Wisconsin, 48-7
07. Southern Cal 250; beat Arizona State, 28-0
08. Brigham Young 233; beat New Mexico, 21-3
09. Texas Tech 228; beat Nebraska, 37-31 (OT)
10. Ohio State 225; beat Purdue, 16-3
11. Georgia 214; beat Tennessee, 26-14
12. Florida 212; beat LSU, 51-21
13. Vanderbilt 169; lost to Mississippi State, 14-17
14. Utah 164; beat Wyoming, 40-7
15. Boise State 146; beat Southern Miss, 24-7
16. Oklahoma State 133; beat Missouri, 28-23
17. Kansas 124; beat Colorado, 30-14
18. Michigan State 96; beat Northwestern, 37-20
19. Virginia Tech 82; bye week
20. North Carolina 66; beat Notre Dame, 29-24
21. Northwestern 53; lost to Michigan State, 20-37
22. Illinois 41; lost to Minnesota, 20-27
23. South Florida 33; bye week
24. Wake Forest 32; beat Clemson, 12-7
25. California 31; bye week

Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 30; Ball State 23; Auburn 19; Pittsburgh 19; Georgia Tech 13; Tulsa 9; Kentucky 6; Florida State 3; Texas Christian 3; Notre Dame 3; Oregon 1; Minnesota 1

Still not receiving a single vote: Michigan 0; lost to Toledo, 10-13

[LitlBuck]

Well, I certainly like our poll much better than the AP poll. However, I still think BYU is ranked ahead of a lot of teams that would beat them. I am also disappointed that South Florida is still in the top 25 after losing at home to Pittsburgh. Also think deserves a higher ranking and Vanderbilt is bound to crash sooner or later.

[Bucklion]

Vanderbilt is a bit high for having only beaten SoCar and a bad Auburn team, but hey, they've earned their ranking...for now. I've had Oklahoma State ranked all season, they have a good team and they're coached by A MAN, but we'll see what they have this weekend. I imagine either NW or MSU will be making a hasty exit after this weekend.

[Jake]

Okay...who voted for Ntre Ame?

[Nutriaitch]

Originally Posted by Bucklion

Vanderbilt is a bit high for having only beaten SoCar and a bad Auburn team, but hey, they've earned their ranking...for now. I've had Oklahoma State ranked all season, they have a good team and they're coached by A MAN, but we'll see what they have this weekend. I imagine either NW or MSU will be making a hasty exit after this weekend.

Well, they are unbeaten with wins against 3 BCS teams (not great ones, but still) which is a lot more than most teams can say right now.

[JXC]

Again...since I like to be transparent. Here are my rankings, with how I had them last week in there. I found no reason to change my top 8. Vandy deserves the ranking, because they've played a decent schedule and haven't lost...plus they have to play a few other great teams, so they can stay in the top 10 for now, and prove if they belong there or not later. So far, they haven't done anything to show they don't belong there. OSU jumps over Florida because of a quality win, if Florida wins their big game next week, they will jump right back most likely. UNC and VTech are starting to look like legit teams, and I had a big correction with Kansas. They looked terrible this week, and looking at their soft schedule and lack of a big win, they just don't deserve to be as high as I had them.

1. Alabama (1)
2. Oklahoma (2)
3. Missouri (3)
4. Penn State (4)
5. Texas (5)
6. LSU (6)
7. Texas Tech (7)
8. USC (8)
9. Vanderbelt (19)
10. Ohio State (10)
11. Florida (9)
12. Utah (12)
13. BYU (13)
14. Georgia (15)
15. Boise State (17)
16. Oklahoma State (23)
17. North Carolina (NR)
18. Virginia Tech (24)
19. California (NR)
20. South Florida (14)
21. Kentucky (21)
22. Michigan State (NR)
23. Kansas (16)

24. Northwestern (25)
25. Wisconsin (18)

[CleveBucks]

Was out of town and didn't get a chance to fill one out this week.

[BB73]

That's a good poll, JXC, I can see some thought went into it.

I've got Oklahoma at #1, but Alabama certainly has an argument.

But there are two things I'll mention: I'm not sure why you have Georgia below Florida - to me the home loss to Ole Miss was worse than the home blowout loss to 'Bama, and the rest of their games haven't shown much of a difference. But it's not a big deal because they'll settle it over a few cocktails on Nov. 1.

The other thing is South Florida and MSU. USF lost at home to Pitt, and prior to that they were hanging their hat on a home win over Kansas, who you've understandably dropped this week. I've got MSU over USF since their loss was on the road at Cal, a team we both ranked. MSU just hung on against Iowa, buty USF wasn't impressive against UCF or FIU.

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

Well, they are unbeaten with wins against 3 BCS teams (not great ones, but still) which is a lot more than most teams can say right now.

And of course those teams were in the SE-by-gawd-C, so [censored]...put them in the NFC South.

Seriously though, we'll see how good they really are going forward...they're a great story thus far, and if they can muster a win over Dook, they will already be bowl eligible (of course they should beat Mississippi State before that). Would like to see Vandy make a bowl.

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by BB73

That's a good poll, JXC, I can see some thought went into it.

I've got Oklahoma at #1, but Alabama certainly has an argument.

But there are two things I'll mention: I'm not sure why you have Georgia below Florida - to me the home loss to Ole Miss was worse than the home blowout loss to 'Bama, and the rest of their games haven't shown much of a difference. But it's not a big deal because they'll settle it over a few cocktails on Nov. 1.

The other thing is South Florida and MSU. USF lost at home to Pitt, and prior to that they were hanging their hat on a home win over Kansas, who you've understandably dropped this week. I've got MSU over USF since their loss was on the road at Cal, a team we both ranked. MSU just hung on against Iowa, buty USF wasn't impressive against UCF or FIU.

I had MSU right around where they are up there...big game this week between MSU and NW to separate them.

[LitlBuck]

Again...since I like to be transparent.

I just can't see putting Alabama over Oklahoma after they only be Kentucky by 3 points. It will be interesting to see what you do with Oklahoma after they beat Texas this weekend.

I just can't see putting Vanderbilt that high just because they beat Auburn by 1 point. They really have not blown out anyone this season except maybe for Rice. Their schedule has not been very difficult.

I completely drop South Florida out of my top 25 because losing to Pittsburgh at home is just bad. Pittsburgh did lose to BG and that doesn't say much for them. I also have Illinois in my top 25 because I think with their offense they are capable of beating a lot of the teams between 15-25.

[JXC]

Originally Posted by BB73

That's a good poll, JXC, I can see some thought went into it.

I've got Oklahoma at #1, but Alabama certainly has an argument.

But there are two things I'll mention: I'm not sure why you have Georgia below Florida - to me the home loss to Ole Miss was worse than the home blowout loss to 'Bama, and the rest of their games haven't shown much of a difference. But it's not a big deal because they'll settle it over a few cocktails on Nov. 1.

The other thing is South Florida and MSU. USF lost at home to Pitt, and prior to that they were hanging their hat on a home win over Kansas, who you've understandably dropped this week. I've got MSU over USF since their loss was on the road at Cal, a team we both ranked. MSU just hung on against Iowa, buty USF wasn't impressive against UCF or FIU.

Well...I guess I look more at the win. I still think Kansas is a top 25 team...and USF does have a win against them. MSU doesn't have a win against the top 25, and the loss isn't THAT much beeter in my opinion. Pitt is pretty close to my top 25, and Cal is not THAT much better than Pitt in my opinion. So MSU's and USF's losses don't look greatly different to me personally, but the win against Kansas is the difference still to me. It's not an amazing win, but it gets them two spots ahead of MSU for now.

I alawys have had Georgia ranked lower than Florida, so I guess my feeling was, until there is reason to switch that, why do it? Neither have done anything in a week to make me want to flip them. When they both lost, I looked at how Georgia was just pushed around at home, very badly, while Florida lost on a extra point block. I guess I just don't see enough difference in those two losses to make up for the fact that since the season started I have just thought that Florida is better than Georgia and would beat them when they play.

[ScriptOhio]

01. Oklahoma 347 (11)..........Big 12
02. Missouri 323......................Big 12
03. Alabama 315 (1)...............SEC
04. Louisiana State 314 (2)....SEC
05. Texas 308..........................Big 12
06. Penn State 284..................Big 10
07. Southern Cal 250...............PAC 10
08. Brigham Young 233...........ME
09. Texas Tech 228..................Big 12
10. Ohio State 225...................Big 10
11. Georgia 214........................SEC
12. Florida 212.........................SEC
13. Vanderbilt 169....................SEC
14. Utah 164..............................ME
15. Boise State 146..................WAC
16. Oklahoma State 133..........Big 12
17. Kansas 124.........................Big 12
18. Michigan State 96..............Big 10
19. Virginia Tech 82.................ACC
20. North Carolina 66...............ACC
21. Northwestern 53................Big 10
22. Illinois 41............................Big 10
23. South Florida 33..................Big East
24. Wake Forest 32..................ACC
25. California 31.......................PAC 10

Conference teams in top BP 25:

Big 12.......6
SEC...........5
Big 10.......5
ACC...........3
PAC 10......2
Big East.....1
Mountain E.2
WAC...........1

bold = BCS conference

OK, the Big 12 has more teams in the top 10, but the Big 10 may not be as bad (weak) a conference as some reporters would lead you to believe.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by JXC

Well...I guess I look more at the win. I still think Kansas is a top 25 team...and USF does have a win against them. MSU doesn't have a win against the top 25, and the loss isn't THAT much beeter in my opinion. Pitt is pretty close to my top 25, and Cal is not THAT much better than Pitt in my opinion. So MSU's and USF's losses don't look greatly different to me personally, but the win against Kansas is the difference still to me. It's not an amazing win, but it gets them two spots ahead of MSU for now.

I alawys have had Georgia ranked lower than Florida, so I guess my feeling was, until there is reason to switch that, why do it? Neither have done anything in a week to make me want to flip them. When they both lost, I looked at how Georgia was just pushed around at home, very badly, while Florida lost on a extra point block. I guess I just don't see enough difference in those two losses to make up for the fact that since the season started I have just thought that Florida is better than Georgia and would beat them when they play.

Fair enough. And speaking of fair, I'll post my poll for next week to give you a chance to question it.

[JXC]

Originally Posted by LitlBuck

I just can't see putting Alabama over Oklahoma after they only be Kentucky by 3 points. It will be interesting to see what you do with Oklahoma after they beat Texas this weekend.

I just can't see putting Vanderbilt that high just because they beat Auburn by 1 point. They really have not blown out anyone this season except maybe for Rice. Their schedule has not been very difficult.

I completely drop South Florida out of my top 25 because losing to Pittsburgh at home is just bad. Pittsburgh did lose to BG and that doesn't say much for them. I also have Illinois in my top 25 because I think with their offense they are capable of beating a lot of the teams between 15-25.

I think Kentucky's defense is better than most think. I like Kentucky, and I figured that game was going to be very close. It was. It was a trap game. It's why I didn't drop Kentucky. I think Kentucky is a top 25 team and Alabama is the best team in the country, and neither team did anything in that game to make me think differently. A close game with a top 25 doesn't mean, to me, that you aren't #1. I still think Alabama is the most talented team and they have the best win out of any of those top teams.

I understand how you feel about Vandy, but they haven't lost, have a tough upcoming schedule. So i'm not worried about putting them up there for winning all their games so far, since if they continue to do so, then they will definitely deserve to be that high. Again, i'm not as impressed with score as you are. Sometimes winning close games show a lot more than winning blowouts.

Pitt isn't a top 25 team...but they are a good enough team to beat some of them on a given day. USF's loss to Pitt isn't as bad was Wisky's loss to Michigan. Pitt is one of those teams that beats teams they shouldn't and loses to teams they shouldn't. Again. USF beat Kansas...and Kansas is a talented top 25 team.

Illinois needs SOME type of quality win to be in the top 25 with 2 losses right now. Juice Williams is great, but their defense is terrible, and to me, they COULD beat a lot of top 25 teams, but they could struggle with a lot of not top 25 teams. They are close, but they need a better win, or a better defense, to move up. If you haven't noticed from my poll, I value defense.