Southern California at tOSU (Sept 12th, 8 pm, ESPN)

[Best Buckeye]

I didn't see it in this thread and I believe that USC is going to have a new OC and that is one reason why Carroll was upset when Mark announced.
He wanted him to break in his new OC.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

I don't mean to pretend like I know more about USC football but it does appear that Jeff Byars is/was a senior. So USC has 4 returning starters on the offensive line as far as I can see from this years depth chart.

Jeff Byers was granted a medical redshirt last month, so he'll be returning for a 6th year. He missed all of '05 and almost all of '06 due to injuries.

[ScriptOhio]

Originally Posted by Buckeye86

I hope we score more points than them.

That will be the major key to the game.

[bukIpower]

wow last minute medical there...

I didn't see it in this thread and I believe that USC is going to have a new OC and that is one reason why Carroll was upset when Mark announced.
He wanted him to break in his new OC.

I personally feel Pete is/was upset because he's a little worried about this QB situation. Mustain couldn't hold onto the QB spot at Arkansas of all places, and Corpe isn't in the recent mold of a USC QB. I feel he wanted Sanchez to come back to A) Redshirt Barkley B) He doesn't feel his QB's now can do the job and C) To make up for the lack of people returning on defense.

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

wow last minute medical there...



I personally feel Pete is/was upset because he's a little worried about this QB situation. Mustain couldn't hold onto the QB spot at Arkansas of all places, and Corpe isn't in the recent mold of a USC QB. I feel he wanted Sanchez to come back to A) Redshirt Barkley B) He doesn't feel his QB's now can do the job and C) To make up for the lack of people returning on defense.

if its been posted in here, apologize, but the word is Sanchez had told Carrol he was staying before Pete went on vacation.

Bradford declares he is going back to Oklahoma. Agents get in Sanchez' ear and tell him he is guaranteed to go first round, and most likely top 15. Sanchez changes his mind, calls Petey to let him know. Pete cuts vacation in Hawaii short, comes back to LA hoping to talk Sanchez out of it.

No luck. Petey looks like a kid who got coal in his stocking on Christmas day.

[bukIpower]

hahahaha... Well it's about time someone from USC declares for the draft anyways. I swear they have more juniors stay around for their senior year than anyone.

Regaurdless what does everyone think of the two starting QB's for USC?

Personally I hope Mustain starts because I've never been impressed with him and I think Corpe is more mobile as well.

[irishtrojan]

at this point and time, corp would be the favorite BUT really noone knows who will end up starting, at least we have our Oline returning.

[irishtrojan]

Projected USC Starting Lineup for next season :18/01/09
Offense:
QB: Aaron Corp SO
RB: Stafon Johnson SR
FB: Stanley Havali JR
WR: Damian Williams JR
WR: Ronald Johnson JR
LT: Charles Brown SR
LG: Jeff Byers SR
C: Kris O'Dowd JR
RG: Alex Parsons SR
RT: Butch Lewis JR

Defense:
DE: Everson Griffen JR
DT: Armon Armstead So.
NT: Christian Tupou Jr.
DE: Malik Jackson So.
WLB: Malcolm Smith Jr.
MLB: Chris Galippo So.
SLB: Mike Morgan Jr.
CB: Shareece Wright Jr.
CB: Kevin Thomas SR.
SS: Will Harris SR.
FS: Taylor Mays Sr.

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by irishtrojan

Projected USC Starting Lineup for next season :18/01/09
Offense:
QB: Aaron Corp SO
RB: Stafon Johnson SR
FB: Stanley Havali JR
WR: Damian Williams JR
WR: Ronald Johnson JR
LT: Charles Brown SR
LG: Jeff Byers SR
C: Kris O'Dowd JR
RG: Alex Parsons SR
RT: Butch Lewis JR

Defense:
DE: Everson Griffen JR
DT: Armon Armstead So.
NT: Christian Tupou Jr.
DE: Malik Jackson So.
WLB: Malcolm Smith Jr.
MLB: Chris Galippo So.
SLB: Mike Morgan Jr.
CB: Shareece Wright Jr.
CB: Kevin Thomas SR.
SS: Will Harris SR.
FS: Taylor Mays Sr.

obviously a lot of talent, but I'd be lying if I said I was scared of it. Not like this season's USC team.

Ohio State should win this game with a home field advantage.

[bukIpower]

obviously a lot of talent, but I'd be lying if I said I was scared of it. Not like this season's USC team.

Ohio State should win this game with a home field advantage.

I think OSU will be the clear under dog, and personally it should be that way until we win a big game. Do we have a good shot to win? Yeah, we have a GREAT chance to win this game but we shouldn't declare ourselves the favorite IMO.

This is the deal with USC right now. The offense should be awesome, but IMO the defense should struggle. There's no reason that with our dline that we can't neutralize the USC offensive line, and put pressure on a very inexperienced QB. Great running game, and talented recievers but the QB position IMO is what may get us the win if we come out and stop the run.

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by irishtrojan

Projected USC Starting Lineup for next season :18/01/09
Offense:
QB: Aaron Corp SO
RB: Stafon Johnson SR
FB: Stanley Havali JR
WR: Damian Williams JR
WR: Ronald Johnson JR
LT: Charles Brown SR
LG: Jeff Byers SR
C: Kris O'Dowd JR
RG: Alex Parsons SR
RT: Butch Lewis JR

Defense:
DE: Everson Griffen JR
DT: Armon Armstead So.
NT: Christian Tupou Jr.
DE: Malik Jackson So.
WLB: Malcolm Smith Jr.
MLB: Chris Galippo So.
SLB: Mike Morgan Jr.
CB: Shareece Wright Jr.
CB: Kevin Thomas SR.
SS: Will Harris SR.
FS: Taylor Mays Sr.

I think you might want to add Joe McKnight at 1b at RB, he's pretty good too.

I think SC's offense might be slightly off due to Corp's lack of experience. At least that's what you have to hope for.

Their defense is probably better. They should be quicker at LB, which means less running lanes for smaller backs like Rodgers or Boom. The secondary is very experienced and the DL is loaded with talent.

SC's going to be pretty good.

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

I think OSU will be the clear under dog, and personally it should be that way until we win a big game. Do we have a good shot to win? Yeah, we have a GREAT chance to win this game but we shouldn't declare ourselves the favorite IMO.

This is the deal with USC right now. The offense should be awesome, but IMO the defense should struggle. There's no reason that with our dline that we can't neutralize the USC offensive line, and put pressure on a very inexperienced QB. Great running game, and talented recievers but the QB position IMO is what may get us the win if we come out and stop the run.

A fair stance Bukipower, but I'm leaning the other way with Sanchez gone. It will be an enviroment Corp or Mustain haven't seen, or haven't seen in a very long time (Mustain started some big games in the SEC).

You say the offense should be awesome, but losing Sanchez hurts. Losing Patrick Turner hurts, even if he was inconsistent. Someone unproven has to account for his production.

Their defense should be good but nearly as good as last year.

I think it will be a pick-em game, if not a 2 or 3 point adavantage either way. I think Vegas could make USC a slight favorite, which would mean the expect tOSU to win. If USC is a 2 point favorite, I think it means they believe tOSU will win, and are playing on the countries perception of tOSU.

Keep in mind, in the final pools, Vegas had tOSU 6th. Higher than the AP or Coaches.

[23Skidoo]

If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot with dumbass penalties... I think we'll do just fine.

[NightmaresDad]

Originally Posted by billmac91

A fair stance Bukipower, but I'm leaning the other way with Sanchez gone. It will be an enviroment Corp or Mustain haven't seen, or haven't seen in a very long time (Mustain started some big games in the SEC).

You say the offense should be awesome, but losing Sanchez hurts. Losing Patrick Turner hurts, even if he was inconsistent. Someone unproven has to account for his production.

Their defense should be good but nearly as good as last year.

I think it will be a pick-em game, if not a 2 or 3 point adavantage either way. I think Vegas could make USC a slight favorite, which would mean the expect tOSU to win. If USC is a 2 point favorite, I think it means they believe tOSU will win, and are playing on the countries perception of tOSU.

Keep in mind, in the final pools, Vegas had tOSU 6th. Higher than the AP or Coaches.

OK, once again, Vegas sets the line based on getting an equal $ amount bet on each team.
It's what the bettors think will happen, not the bookies.
Vegas is uncannily good at setting an initial line that serves their purpose.

If the $ thinks tOSU will win, then they will be the favorite, not USC.

I agree, however, that there won't be a clear favorite. Very low point spread, probably influenced by each team's initial game.

If tOSU's offense shows a pulse the first game, or even looks somewhat dominant, they could very well be a slight favorite.

[bukIpower]

lol well dont tell Vegas because I think I'd rather be the under dog, at home, and at night.

I mean yes I think USC won't be nearly the team through the air they were this year, but that running game should be really really hard to stop. You add 5 returning starters on the line and a stable or running backs to a defense that sometimes plays weird personnel packages and I'm a little afraid. One things for certain though I hope we practice that damn toss sweep because we couldn't stop them on that play for the life of us.

I really hope we win this game going away because I want to see that prick Pete Carrol frowning rather than jumping around laughing smiling and acting like a school girl.

My perfect score (of course I'd rather it be further apart) would be....

OSU-35
USC-13