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Old 11-13-2004, 09:03 PM
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I think Pittcock has played really well all year. He's going to be good one and only a Sophmore. I also agree about a pass rushing end. We are really lacking there.
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:07 PM
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Great adjustments by Snyder at halftime. The young D played good. They played their hearts out. When your missing 4 starters on D it hurts. Tough loss today but I am proud of the way the team played today. They blew some key play late in the game. This season is just making us better next year. All we need on D is to develop a better pass rush with our d-lineman.
and better db play. underwood blew 2 assignments, both of which resulted in an easy 6 for purdue. as outmatched as we were i was surprised we held them to 24.
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personally I was very dissappointed in the defense... regardless of the experience... overall, I thought the tackling was extremely poor... these new fellas are still thinking they're still in high school... where they'd make the 'big stick' and just knock an offensive guys head off... today they tried that crap and that man just kept coming... these 'big sticks' barely slowed them down...followed by 5-10 more yards with no one wrapping up and tackling...
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personally I was very dissappointed in the defense... regardless of the experience... overall, I thought the tackling was extremely poor... these new fellas are still thinking they're still in high school... where they'd make the 'big stick' and just knock an offensive guys head off... today they tried that crap and that man just kept coming... these 'big sticks' barely slowed them down...followed by 5-10 more yards with no one wrapping up and tackling...
we haven't tackled well all year. we are slowely getting better. but we are a long way away from being a sound tackling team. personally this is my biggest issue with the d.
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Martin you misunderstood my point. No way would I assert that the defense is great. I would say slightly above average at best in spots. I agree with the scheme, but I disagree with blaming it entirely on the offense. The last Purdue drive was a cakewalk and in this case, one drive the did the game make. Blame it on the scheme or the offense, but the lack of any semblance of a pass rush on that drive, as I state above, makes it too easy for a QB like Orton to pick us apart. The problem with playing man against the spread is the crossing routes and mismatches along with a wide open middle of the field. We played some cover 5 and had good success but it disappeared. Add in the lack of a rush and you get trouble.

The zone is fine but there should have been some mixing of that zone coverage. People hear zone and assume that means everyone is bailing out but that isn't the case. There are so many combination zones that would work well...sky calls, cloud calls, etc. Each formation has a number of possibilities. Personally, I would have matched up AY on Stubblefield for the final drive and played a cover 3 look behind it. You would give up strong side flats, but I would match Hawk or Carp against a sitting duck receiver, TE, or H-back all day in that situation. Instead we dropped into a cover 4/soft cover 2 look and let Stubblefield catch the 8 yard out all the way down the field.

The offense could have done more and had opportunities to do so. However, when the game was in hand, it was the defense that let Purdue march down the field. Personally, I can find many aspects of the team to place blame....including a damn injury bug
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:38 PM
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Yeah the tackling was poor, but the thing that sticks out to me is 3 things. Its been this way for 3 years now regardless of what our talent has been.

1) Give up 3rd down's
2) No Pressure from the front 4, and yes even last years group.
3) They play way too far off the ball.
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:42 PM
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change your 3 to 1 and you are correct....

no way for three years....180 degrees the opposite from dantonio.....

do you understand football buckipower....

for two years the buckeyes...against a spread would rush three and get pressure.....they would drop smith sometimes and rush him others....

scott, anderson, smith and simon could easily run the line.....

now...the lack of a d-line push has forced the db's to back off to the 6-8 range....with a great d-line like the past two years the d could play cover two or man and rule....
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:45 PM
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Well they did alot more zone blitzes with Dantonio which I LOVED...... but seriously If you look at the numbers such as sacks, and passing yards against its not too far off I believe.

They do play way too off the ball.

I say they kinda are the same the past 3 years because we're kinda talking about just when a team passes against us in general. Now in the running game there's no question that Dantonio had his men better prepared to play the run than Snyder has to date. Thats what scews the numbers is the rush defense the past years.
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the difference between snyder and dantonio that i see is this....

dantonio said....i dare you....ill kick your ass...

snyder says....ok...you can have a few yards at a time...you are not getting the big play....
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