Defense

[bukIpower]

After the intial first couple drives I thought they played very well....... thats until #18 came in.... I'm sick and tired of this soft zone [censored], and I for one hope definate things are done in the off season. Does anyone know what was wrong with Fox??? Also I think Underwood is really suck'n out there right now..... I thought the D-Line had a pretty good game actually... Only thing that killed us was the short stuff and then the outside runs..... It kinda felt like playing North Western all over again......

[DCBuckFan]

Yeah, doens't help that 3/4ths of the starting defensive backfield is hurt..

I was [censored]ed about the total lack of pass rush unless 2-3 LBs blitz, and then it was only 50/50... Got to change that in the next week

[ScarletArrow]

I was sick seeing Underwood come on the CB blitz on go for the fake instead of pounding Orton.

[osugrad21]

I didn't understand when we left the cover 5...or at least mix it in some. Hell, the man under was giving them fits

[martinss01]

wasn't the d's fault. by the 4th quarter they were all exhausted and sucking wind. shocking seeing as how we had lb's on wr's ALL GAME. its absolutely amazing that we held them to 24.

if you can't count on your offense for AT LEAST 20 points you don't deserve to win, period.

[osugrad21]

Originally Posted by martinss01

wasn't the d's fault.

So they get a free pass for Orton going 6/6 down the field for an easy score? Sorry, but with the game on the line, a great D sucks it up and gets the stop.

[ScarletArrow]

The DL needed to make a play on the last drive and didn't get any pressure on Orton.

The defense played admirably for 1 1/2 quarters in the 2nd half - but they are very culpable in this loss.

[sandgk]

osugrad21 - Bob Davie is evidently much better from the booth than he was on the sidelines.
Called early that this could come down to tOSU's backfield standing tall. It did.
The D-line can help the secondary stand tall by bringing pressure. At a crucial time, when they had Purdue half-way thinking that things were destined to go the Buckeyes way -- the D-Line could not get rush. Orton connects. 17-24 Purdue over tOSU end of story .

For those keeping count-- Unless Troy connects for 6 pts on either of the interceptions, or tOSU keeps ball and gets 6 pts from FGs it still ends up as 24-23 in favor of Purdue.

Too many Injuries. No Fox - No Salley -- No Win

[osugrad21]

I agree...

D-line is too thin this year. That lack of depth keeps the rotation to a minimum which means bad news late in games

[buckzip]

Originally Posted by osugrad21

I agree...

D-line is too thin this year. That lack of depth keeps the rotation to a minimum which means bad news late in games

Maupin, Cotton, Penton, Richardson, those guys were highly touted coming in.
Why aren't they playing in the rotation?

[osugrad21]

Couldn't tell ya...but judging by how undisciplined the starters play, I'm not too anxious to see them. The biggest absence is any type of speed rush off the edge. Gholston will hopefully cure that next year.

[buckiprof]

Sorry, but with the game on the line, a great D sucks it up and gets the stop.

I agree but it is an understatement to say that we don't have a great D this year. We could also add that a great D doesn't give up as many 3rd down conversions as our does this year. While it does help the D to have the O actually sustain some drives to give them a blow, it would also help the D to stop the other team on 3rd down with a little greater frequency than we have seen this year.

[osugrad21]

Originally Posted by buckiprof

I agree but it is an understatement to say that we don't have a great D this year. We could also add that a great D doesn't give up as many 3rd down conversions as our does this year. While it does help the D to have the O actually sustain some drives to give them a blow, it would also help the D to stop the other team on 3rd down with a little greater frequency than we have seen this year.

Agreed but again Prof, give ANY D-1 QB all day to throw and receivers time to run the deep crosses and you are in trouble. LBs play hook/curl zones for a reason, but when they get those WRs crossing at full speed and a QB with zero pressure and a clear passing lane...its bad news for the D.

[martinss01]

Originally Posted by osugrad21

So they get a free pass for Orton going 6/6 down the field for an easy score? Sorry, but with the game on the line, a great D sucks it up and gets the stop.

no they don't get a free pass. but i think you are a bit mistaken on our defense. we don't have a "great" defense. we have a "good" defense. unlike a "great" defense, a "good" defense can not be counted on to win every single game you play. every now and then the offense has to actually show up and play. seriously, you can't ask anymore from a defense than to hold the opposing offense to 20 points. expecially after 4 turnovers!

one drive does not a game make. how many 3 and outs did the offense post up today? how many times do you expect to get away with aj hawk playing man coverage against stubblefield? there is a reason why underwood doesn't start... we were short 3 starting db's going against a passing team. were you expecting a shut out?

don't get me wrong, i didn't like the a lot of the defensive schemes we played today. but when your offense can only put up 17 points and turns the ball over 4 fricken times... im sorry but i can't pin this one on the d.

[GoBux20]

Great adjustments by Snyder at halftime. The young D played good. They played their hearts out. When your missing 4 starters on D it hurts. Tough loss today but I am proud of the way the team played today. They blew some key play late in the game. This season is just making us better next year. All we need on D is to develop a better pass rush with our d-lineman.