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Old 11-16-2004, 07:05 PM
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Yes, Herbstreit works for ESPN. I would agree with you if Herbstreit DID NOT have personal experience within the buckeye program i.e...being the starting QB. If he was NOT an ex-player, he should stay unbiased. However, the ESPN report is based on former players testimony. He would be the perfect "credible witness" ESPN is lacking with this story. Bottom Line, ESPN would NOT fire Herby for stating his personal knowledge of the program. Gimme a Break. He has more lattitude than he is using. His silence could/has been be viewed by the average College Football fan as suspicious at best.
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So, because the average football fan is an unquestioning moron, Herbie is responsible? I don't see Lee Corso pumping up Indiana at every opportunity just cause he coached there.
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“I understand that one of the stars of ESPN Game Day went off on us a bit last night on the air,” Geiger said. “I didn't hear it myself. This is secondhand, that we think we're getting bigger than college football. This is the same individual who, four weeks ago after we lost three straight games said on the air that he didn't see how he could recommend Ohio State to a young man who wants to play offensive football. I'm concerned about that. And the juxtaposition of that and some of the kinds of things I've heard on and off the air with regard to that.
“So our welcome mat is perhaps not as thick as it once was with regard to some of those kinds of things. I don't know who is thinking that they're bigger than the game of football in this particular instance and it bothers me and I'm pretty outspoken about it and I'm pretty outspoken with the Big Ten about it and I talked with the commissioner about it today. I have talked to my colleague athletic directors and I'm not alone in my concern.”
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Yes, Herbstreit works for ESPN. I would agree with you if Herbstreit DID NOT have personal experience within the buckeye program i.e...being the starting QB. If he was NOT an ex-player, he should stay unbiased. However, the ESPN report is based on former players testimony. He would be the perfect "credible witness" ESPN is lacking with this story. Bottom Line, ESPN would NOT fire Herby for stating his personal knowledge of the program. Gimme a Break. He has more lattitude than he is using. His silence could/has been be viewed by the average College Football fan as suspicious at best.

He did state once on the radio show when the allegations first came out that he never saw or knew anything about cars/cash/grades. What is he supposed to do, repeat himself ever 5 minutes when the assholes at Espin run another add or lead-in? I think he is doing the right thing, that said, I didn't like the attitude he took responding to Gieger turning down gameday.


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I know I'm going to get blasted for this but I'm going to say it anyway. I think we, as Ohio State fans, are the people most responsible for the anti-Buckeye slant among certain members of the media. Because of the way we view our football program, we take offense to any public statement that doesn't proclaim our program as God. Trev Alberts didn't have his anti-OSU tag until the Miami prediction (who among you SERIOUSLY were confident we would win that game?). He got DESTROYED by OSU fans calling him an idiot and saying we get no respect, etc. The truth is...if I heard so much crap from a teams fans, I would hope and pray each Saturday that they got beat so I could rub it back in their arrogant faces.

I'm not trying to say it is all our fan's fault, but lets face it...we don't help. The same thing has applied with Herbie. He gets blasted for making an honest (and reasonable) observation on the NC State game, and he is deemed a traitor! He carries a monkey of devoted fans opinions on his back every weekend because he is honest and tries to be objective.

I wholeheartedly agree that ESPN's article is crap and a product of Maurice being an idiot. But we really need to consider not writing every freaking media member that we feel we were slighted by...it really does make us look like whiners that are desperately seeking approval. We are just feeding the flame, and in times like these, where we need friends in the media...we only have people rooting for us to go down.
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:16 PM
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You don't get it. I am NOT implying Herby has a responsibility to be a tOSU mouthpiece. But, He does have the oppurtunity to defend OSU and he has CHOSEN not to do so. There is HUGE difference between being a tOSU cheerleader every week and defending his alma mater when being attacked with false allegations. I am very disappointed in his silence.
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I guess if Herbie doesn't kiss OSU ass then he is a jerk.
He is saying the same things alot of us say. The difference is he has a forum a little bigger than an internet message board.

He loves OSU football, and is passionate about it. He is as sick, and tired as the rest of us as to why this offense sucks so bad.
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damn.....this is the reason why the media laughs at us....who really gives a flip what herbie says or what espn says.....

the fact that the buckeye nation gets this out of whack over these things is precisely what renders the buckeye nation a target.....

quit worrying about the media and worry about the team.......
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