Tress & Family & Children

[TallIndian]

I think that one of the great things we hear about Tress is that he treats the

players like they are his own children. They are given a second chance, and

they are looked after and taught social and community values.

On the other hand, the children need to respect that they are a part of the

family, and what they do reflects on the family.

A friend of mine, recently had to set down his child

and say, "Look, you are young and you are your own person, but what you do

drags the family through the mud with you. This is not OK."

My point is that while Tress accepts them as family, and is willing to give

them a second chance, he also needs to teach them that are are

consequences to actions, and just because you are a football player, you

cannot get away with murder

(ok, so OJ is the exception ... but I think he was Petey's #1 guy)

You cannot keep letting them do these things with just a slap on the wrist.

This comes back to the fact that Ohio Players with the Lenix attitude that

it is an honor to represent your state are guys that we want to be here.

The point here is that while Tress is great at giving the kids a second chance,

I think he needs to emphasize to them a little more how their actions reflect

on the family.

I think that while the Smith incident is a "minor" infraction, it is a major black

eye to the family, at a time when the family was under close

scrutiney / attack for this very thing. SO while the technical infraction is

minor, there is a major lack of judgment in terms of being a productive

member of the tOSU family, and there needs to be sincere remorse on Smith's

part when he is back to being a member of this family.

The consequences of the actions are far more reaching than just missing a

Bowl game performance from a player, and the penalty should be more than

just that Smith didn't get to have fun in San Antonio, so that is appropriate

punishment to excuse the loss of a second game.

What should that punishment be ..... hey I just propose the proposition ....

JT needs to answer that question.

I just want to emphasize that we all represent tOSU. And all of our actions

reflect upon the university, and other tOSU members. Some more so than

others. Whith great priviledges comes great responsability.

[osugrad21]

Great job TI

[BB73]

I agree, TI.

Asking the NCAA to reinstate Troy before the first game of the year, which they have the option to do, would be a mistake.

Both in terms of the message to the players and the PR aspect nationally.

But I think that Tress often takes away priveleges from players for minor discretions that aren't publicized. I don't think that very many players on the team think that they can get away with much.

Unfortunately, at this point it only takes 1 to get the program raked through the mud again.

[daddyphatsacs]

Fantastic post TI, you stole most of my thoughts on this issue.

[Penguin-BUCK]

Originally Posted by TallIndian

I think that one of the great things we hear about Tress is that he treats the

players like they are his own children. They are given a second chance, and

they are looked after and taught social and community values.

On the other hand, the children need to respect that they are a part of the

family, and what they do reflects on the family.

A friend of mine, recently had to set down his child

and say, "Look, you are young and you are your own person, but what you do

drags the family through the mud with you. This is not OK."

My point is that while Tress accepts them as family, and is willing to give

them a second chance, he also needs to teach them that are are

consequences to actions, and just because you are a football player, you

cannot get away with murder

(ok, so OJ is the exception ... but I think he was Petey's #1 guy)

You cannot keep letting them do these things with just a slap on the wrist.

This comes back to the fact that Ohio Players with the Lenix attitude that

it is an honor to represent your state are guys that we want to be here.

The point here is that while Tress is great at giving the kids a second chance,

I think he needs to emphasize to them a little more how their actions reflect

on the family.

I think that while the Smith incident is a "minor" infraction, it is a major black

eye to the family, at a time when the family was under close

scrutiney / attack for this very thing. SO while the technical infraction is

minor, there is a major lack of judgment in terms of being a productive

member of the tOSU family, and there needs to be sincere remorse on Smith's

part when he is back to being a member of this family.

The consequences of the actions are far more reaching than just missing a

Bowl game performance from a player, and the penalty should be more than

just that Smith didn't get to have fun in San Antonio, so that is appropriate

punishment to excuse the loss of a second game.

What should that punishment be ..... hey I just propose the proposition ....

JT needs to answer that question.

I just want to emphasize that we all represent tOSU. And all of our actions

reflect upon the university, and other tOSU members. Some more so than

others. Whith great priviledges comes great responsability.

I agree and Well put, you said the right things. Be patient on this matter, I do believe your wish will be answered in the not so near future.