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Old 03-17-2005, 05:12 PM
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I'm not a person who's opinion is swayed easily, but after listening to Colin Cowherd on the subject, I have done a complete 180 degree turn in my opinion on the subject.

His first point was that, according to Brand, around 5% of the athletic departments in the country are even in the black. That means that many are likely already in danger of cutting programs just to stop the bleeding. I have no clue how many student-athletes there are at any given university, so I am going to use a number of 300 (there are likely MANY more) just to make a point. Let's say the athletic department pays each student athlete just $100 a week (this may go a long way in Columbus, but in the big city it isn't going to last long). 300 students x $100 = $30,000 x 52 weeks in a year = $1,560,000 a year on top of what they are already losing.

Colin also talked about the misconception that college athletes in general are exploited. If you think about it, what percentage of these athletes actually create enough buzz to bring IN as much to the University as they get out of a scholarship? Sure there is the occasional Carmello Anthony, Ted Ginn, Etc. but to be honest, these schools likely sell out the games anyway and the kids that bring along that much hype are likely making millions within a couple years.

The problem is, athletes complain that they don't have money because they can't work, be a student and an athlete all at once. All college students run short on money and are resigned to eating Ramen Noodles...and I don't see any offensive lineman struggling to get nourishment. Sheryl Swoops complained about credit card bills, but every year I see college students tied down with not only credit card debt but also YEARS worth of school debt that a scholarship athlete will never have.

Just because OSU's athletic department makes money (which really we need just to pay off building and renovating facilities), we assume that we can pay players, but not just a group of schools can do this...ALL of them would have to or it would be an unfair advantage. Also, can you equate cost of living into it to make sure the money goes just as far in California as it does in North Dakota? If a school that is already in the red has to start paying players, they will cut scholarship sports. What is more important...

A.) That our football, basketball and baseball players (the greats of which will soon be in the pros anyway) make some extra spending money in school.

or...

B.) That other sports programs stay up and running to give a free ride to kids that appreciate it and may otherwise not get a chance at a college education.

My eyes were opened today.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:13 PM
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This is a bit outside the topic, but just barely. I think I still have my toe inside the lines of the topic.

Anyway, I've felt that football players should be able to get a major in football. Actually, I feel that COLLEGE STUDENTS should be able to major in football. The classes they take may include weight training (the students learn HOW and WHY to properly lift, rather than simply to lift), nutrition, and other health sciences, as well as learning offensive and defensive strategies and techniques. Underclassmen may spend more time learning in classrooms, while the upper classmen may take on assistant coaching positions at local area high schools. I believe that this will produce smarter, more disciplined football players who might have a better chance at succeeding in the NFL. Also, it would give players who don't make it to the NFL a better knowledge of the game, and they would be better suited for a coaching career.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:35 PM
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not a bad idea, except you don't get coaching jobs without teaching classes, and to teach a class you need a major other than football as most high schools don't have a lot of football101 classes. Perhaps something that is a glorified health major, so you can be a PE/Health teacher. We all know how much intelligence it takes to teach Health class.
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Old 03-18-2005, 03:03 PM
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Sure - it can be an overall Athletics/PE/Health major. I just think that more players would be better prepared for after college if they're more rounded of a football player. If a RB takes classes that help him understand defensive strategies, he may be more apt to learn ways to beat those strategies. And if a linebacker learns offensive strategies, he may be more suited for when an unexpected play comes up.

And I'm not suggesting this is a "Coach is giving everyone easy A's" type of a thing. Though I don't know how to solve that issue, short of not letting the coaches teach the classes. But who'd be better suited to teach the classes than real football coaches?

And what about the smaller schools that can't afford to start a new type of education field? I see many holes in my plan. Maybe it would be better to hope this never comes to fruition.
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I think a Coke commercial showing during the NCAA hoops tournament siad that there are 360,000 student athletes in college. Paying a significant percentage of them would take a whole lot of money.
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Paying a significant percentage of them would take a whole lot of money.
I'm pretty sure Title IX and the other equal opportunity laws assure that you would have to pay them ALL the same.

What you would see is a lot of schools dropping a lot of sports programs.
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OSU and UF wonder if they deserve cash from BCS...

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...v=ap&type=lgns

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Buckeyes and Gators wonder if they deserve a cut of BCS cash By ANDREW BAGNATO, AP Sports Writer
January 5, 2007 QB Chris Leak: Here because of hard work Teams fight rust
GLENDALE, Ariz. (AP) -- Playing in a bowl is no longer reward enough for some college football players: Some Buckeyes and Gators want a cut of the millions being generated by the championship game.
"We all deserve more money," Ohio State senior guard T.J. Downing said. "We're the reason this money's coming in. We're the guys out there sacrificing our bodies. We're taking years off our lives out here hitting each other, and we're not being compensated for it."
... This is an age-old debate. But I think it's pretty crazy. I'm a student-athlete myself in college and I think we ARE getting paid. It's called scholarships. Do we not value education these days? Most of these players who attend schools like USC, OSU, Michigan, probably can not get into those schools on their grades alone.


That's just my opinion on the matter. I see both sides of the argument, but as a walk-on on my own college team I think being able to get money in the form of a college education makes doing what you do all worth while.
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